04-15-2013, 06:07 PM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Classic case of awful management in anything - thinking one big thing will solve a major, deeply-rooted problem. Look around...it takes a lot of moves, many of them small, over a long period of time to get good.
And MacTavish takes a page out of Feaster's book in making a completely unnecessary statement/promise of something drastic. What exactly is gained by saying this? You already got the job (somehow) so who exactly are you trying to appease or impress?
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04-15-2013, 06:08 PM
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#322
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by fleury
I'm happy enough they didn't pick up Burke. Gives us the opportunity to pick him up as our president in a month.
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Didn't Lowe, MacT and Burke have a fall out over offer sheets? Not too sure Burke would even consider working with that group.
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04-15-2013, 06:11 PM
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#323
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Kevin Lowe is obviously way out of control. And there is no way he is not involved in the hockey operations, when really his job description doesn't call for it. Gretzky was gracious enough to accept that working in the game wasn't for him, the least Lowe can do is the same.
Just get out man. You weren't even that good.
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04-15-2013, 06:12 PM
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#324
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Edmonton
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I think a lot of GM's will be hoping to test out MacTavish's GM skills seeing how he's already talking a big game in hopes of shaking things up. It's not easy making deals in the NHL anymore and the Oilers don't have a lot in trade assets outside of their beloved top young players and they certainly aren't going to get a top defensemen for MPS, Gagner or Hemsky.
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No kidding. An inexperienced and in his own words an impatient GM who wants to make a big splash to prove his worth. I bet there are a couple GM's just waiting for the summer to just school MacTavish. I have a feeling the worst is yet to come for Oiler fans. I love it.
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04-15-2013, 06:14 PM
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#325
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by calgARI
so who exactly are you trying to appease or impress?
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Just re-setting up the Lowe tried and true "well we tried" draft day/free agent routine?
Or perhaps the fans (those that pay, that is)?
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04-15-2013, 06:21 PM
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#326
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino
Didn't Lowe, MacT and Burke have a fall out over offer sheets? Not too sure Burke would even consider working with that group.
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Who can forget that fiasco? Maybe it'll be more of an incentive for Burke to come here.
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04-15-2013, 06:25 PM
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#327
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First Line Centre
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The media has been so harsh toward the Flames this season, wonder if they will be consistent and call out the Oilers and Lowe for their stupidity.
Haven't watched TSN today, what are they saying?
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04-15-2013, 06:37 PM
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#328
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Red John
The media has been so harsh toward the Flames this season, wonder if they will be consistent and call out the Oilers and Lowe for their stupidity.
Haven't watched TSN today, what are they saying?
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I like the fact that the Edmonton media has found their sack and tossed some hard hitting questions at the Oilers management.
Lowe came off like a complete D-bag. Hope he gets canned soon!
The full housecleaning can't come soon enough.
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04-15-2013, 06:40 PM
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#329
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Franchise Player
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I dont share the same hate for MacTavish. Id take him here as a coach.
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04-15-2013, 06:41 PM
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#330
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Originally Posted by Oil Stain
I like the fact that the Edmonton media has found their sack and tossed some hard hitting questions at the Oilers management.
Lowe came off like a complete D-bag. Hope he gets canned soon!
The full housecleaning can't come soon enough.
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It was just one guy, wasn't it?
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04-15-2013, 06:42 PM
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#331
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa
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Considering how enjoyable the dog and pony show up north has been, this is a bit of a bummer. I think MacT will make a pretty good GM, and is certainly a more viable long-term option than either Tortellini or Lowe.
MacT has always struck me as a really sharp thinker of the game--as much as we are loathe to admit it, he was a very good coach for the majority of his time behind the Oilers bench. He's got the contacts and the reputation to transition fairly seamlessly into the NHL GM club; I suspect he's far more respected than Tambellini and has far better bedside manner than Lowe.
So I expect he'll be a fairly quick study as a GM and will outlast Lowe, which will be unfortunate as far as observing perpetual trainwrecks goes.
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04-15-2013, 06:44 PM
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#332
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
It was just one guy, wasn't it?
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There were at least 3 members of the media asking uncomfortable questions. Spector, Mackinnon, and Van Diest. That is a big departure, from the zero that stepped out of line as long as I can remember.
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04-15-2013, 06:50 PM
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#333
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Lifetime Suspension
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Lowe sounded like he showed to the presser straight from the bar. Slurring words, can't even pronounce his own players names. What a disgrace.
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04-15-2013, 06:52 PM
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#334
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteLFan
Lowe sounded like he showed to the presser straight from the bar. Slurring words, can't even pronounce his own players names. What a disgrace.
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Complete with the uninhibited egotistical ramblings.
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04-15-2013, 07:25 PM
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#335
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
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04-15-2013, 07:34 PM
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#336
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
There were at least 3 members of the media asking uncomfortable questions. Spector, Mackinnon, and Van Diest. That is a big departure, from the zero that stepped out of line as long as I can remember.
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And judging by the way Lowe reacted to the questions, he's clearly not used to it. I agree, he does come off like a total D-bag. Love how whenever he gets a bit of heat, either from media or other GM's (eg. Burke), he immediately resorts to counting Cups (which he won as a player, a quarter of a century ago. Tell me what that has to do with management ability). What a complete tool.
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04-15-2013, 07:36 PM
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#337
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North of the River, South of the Bluff
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On of the best quotes yet, especially the last line.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/04/1...the-team-needs
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His fingerprints have been on this mess longer than anyone’s — the Oilers made the playoffs just three times in 12 years since he stepped up to a management position in 2000 — but he has been apparently granted lifetime immunity by an owner who’s running this organization like a tree fort instead of a professional hockey team.
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04-15-2013, 07:44 PM
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#338
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: lower mainland
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This is just amazing. I'll bet today has marked the highest volume of "Thanks" being given on this site since the Canucks failed and rioted.
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04-15-2013, 07:47 PM
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#339
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino
Didn't Lowe, MacT and Burke have a fall out over offer sheets? Not too sure Burke would even consider working with that group.
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Brian Burke accused Kevin Lowe of "colossal stupidity," following the signing of Dustin Penner to an offer sheet. Burkie is looking like a genius these days!
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04-15-2013, 07:48 PM
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#340
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
There were at least 3 members of the media asking uncomfortable questions. Spector, Mackinnon, and Van Diest. That is a big departure, from the zero that stepped out of line as long as I can remember.
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Who was the guy who asked the question that got Lowe all fired up?
When he inserted "in 7 seven" in the middle of it, I lost it.
Good on him.
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