[Rumour] Iginla Trade Talk: Iginla scratched from CGY Vs. COL

[Rudee]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Disagree. If Iggy goes deep in the playoffs with the Pens, is Crosby's linemate, and signs an extension, you will see Iggy jerseys. People love to get the new guy's name on the back of a jersey. Why do you think you see Wideman /Baertschi / Hudler jerseys being sold in Flames stores?

Iggy would sell jerseys. Even his nickname (Iggy) is marketable.

No way Pens will tinker with their top two lines right now. They have incredible chemistry. Kunitz, Dupuis having career years.....Crosby leading the league in points. They aren't going to put Iginla in the mix and ruin the chemistry. No way. besides, they need defensive help, if anything.

[FlameZilla]

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...e-life-choices

A light-hearted evaluation of Iggy's possible life choices. My favourite:

Refuse to be traded, give an inspiring speech about believing in your teammates even if nobody else does, then shock the world by leading your team to a stunning championship

Also known as: Fantasyland.

The precedent: None. Sorry.

Pros: Would be, without question, the best possible ending for the Jarome Iginla story.

Cons: You know this can’t happen, because you are not 5 years old.

Unintended consequence: Disney makes a movie about the story, Will Smith plays you, and the soundtrack features the hit single “Getting Iggy With It.”

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Rudee

No way Pens will tinker with their top two lines right now. They have incredible chemistry. They aren't going to put Iginla on the line and ruin the chemistry. No way.

If Iggy is traded to Pitt ( i don't think it will happen) there is no doubt he plays with Crosby.

[MissTeeks]

Joe Haggerty‏@HackswithHaggs35s
Milan Lucic on Iginla being welcome in Bruins dressing room: "100 percent. He's scored 500 goals. Growing up in VAN he was one of my idols"

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Our goaltending depth is probably one of the worst in the league if Kipper leaves. It's an acute problem. Sure it could be shored up with UFAs but to say that trading for goalies is a wasted effort is just not credible.

I don't think there is anything in the organization you don't look at trading other than draft picks if it means you can acquire another top 10 or top 5 pick this year.

There is such a lack of can't miss in our system that I would deal Baertschi if it meant another pick in the top 5-7 of the draft this year.

This franchise absolutely needs quality before anything else. I like Baertschi and think he is a quality prospect, but he's a tier below where the Flames need to be and as such, for me, wouldn't be untouchable if it meant getting a very high end draft pick, or the equivalent under 20 years old.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Rudee

No way Pens will tinker with their top two lines right now. They have incredible chemistry. Kunitz, Dupuis having career years.....Crosby leading the league in points. They aren't going to put Iginla in the mix and ruin the chemistry. No way. besides, they need defensive help, if anything.

because he's too slow?....

[moon]

Originally Posted by Rudee

No way Pens will tinker with their top two lines right now. They have incredible chemistry. Kunitz, Dupuis having career years.....Crosby leading the league in points. They aren't going to put Iginla in the mix and ruin the chemistry. No way. besides, they need defensive help, if anything.

Didn't they just trade for Morrow to tinker with their top two lines?

I guess this is better than the garbage too slow BS you have been trying to promote.

[puds]

LOL @ Moon being a voice of reason and moderation in this thread.

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Muta

I just have a gut feeling. I work in marketing, Iginla is a very marketable commodity for a variety of reasons. I actually don't believe this is the same type of situation as Sundin, given that there is a heigtened sense of urgency and excitement given the Iginla trade rumours. Sundin didn't have that.

Yeah I'm with Duhatschek on this one. He felt the two situations were markedly dissimilar because the Sundin affair had dragged on for a couple of years and that he didn't really want to go anywhere and was forced to by pressure. Also he said he's in fact older. Not a ton, but older.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by ma-skis.com

just curious, since you have a formal marketing POV, what demographics does he appeal to or characteristics he has that make him extra marketable.

I have my own conclusions, but thought it'd be interesting to get another opinion.

Depends on where he goes.

But firstly, Iginla has a 'brand' that he seems to have developed over the years - fantastic hockey player, tough as nails (used to be, anyways), terrific leadership, uber-athletic, Team Canada veteran, well-spoken, professional in all respects... these are what make up the Iginla brand.

Throw in 'stepping stone facts' such as that he helped Crosby score the Golden Goal, he went into sub-human beast mode during the 2004 Playoffs, has scored 50 goals twice, has never scored less than 30 for many years... people know what he has done. It sounds silly, but it all adds up.

And whether people like to admit it or not, his skin color is marketable, too. He is an ideal role model in professional sports, and playing in cities like Boston, Los Angeles or Chicago - where the African-American communities are significantly larger than Calgary's - presents an opportunity to gain a stronger foothold on those potential markets.

Iginla is a known commodity even out east; I just don't believe he has the same type of reputation that Sundin has (Sundin is a great character as well). Iginla's is just more marketable is a variety of demographics.

[trublmaker]

where ever Iggy lands I feel bad for the players coming back this way.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

There's no way that Ramo comes across the ocean as a backup, he might as well stay in the KHL and be a starter.

Trading for Bernier would be singularly stupid, we don't have a goaltending depth issue.

What would be singularly stupid is handing the starting goaltender job to a guy who hasn't played a single game in the NHL. Apprenticing as a backup for a season or two is the normal route to becoming an NHL starter.

And the rest of the Flames' goaltending depth is 4-6 years away from NHL-starter ready.

[MissTeeks]

Originally Posted by Muta

Depends on where he goes.

But firstly, Iginla has a 'brand' that he seems to have developed over the years - fantastic hockey player, tough as nails (used to be, anyways), terrific leadership, uber-athletic, Team Canada veteran, well-spoken, professional in all respects... these are what make up the Iginla brand.

Throw in 'stepping stone facts' such as that he helped Crosby score the Golden Goal, he went into sub-human beast mode during the 2004 Playoffs, has scored 50 goals twice, has never scored less than 30 for many years... people know what he has done. It sounds silly, but it all adds up.

And whether people like to admit it or not, his skin color is marketable, too. He is an ideal role model in professional sports, and playing in cities like Boston, Los Angeles or Chicago - where the African-American communities are significantly larger than Calgary's - presents an opportunity to gain a stronger foothold on those potential markets.

Iginla is a known commodity even out east; I just don't believe he has the same type of reputation that Sundin has (Sundin is a great character as well). Iginla's is just more marketable is a variety of demographics.

Don't forget being a spokesperson for Nyquil!

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

What would be singularly stupid is handing the starting goaltender job to a guy who hasn't played a single game in the NHL. Apprenticing as a backup for a season or two is the normal route to becoming an NHL starter.

And the rest of the Flames' goaltending depth is 4-6 years away from NHL-starter ready.

So I guess you wouldn't mind Ramo coming over then to challenge for the starting position?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Muta

Another thing I hope Feaster is considering - the marketing potential for Iggy's new team would be off the charts. Merchandise sales, advertising, etc.

I hope Feaster informs any potential suitors that this is another benefit of acquiring Iginla. His value off the ice will be huge.

Sorry, but that's only the case in a few Canadian markets. Most hardcore hockey fans in Boston or LA have no doubt heard of Iginla. But I doubt most would recognize his face.

Did the Red Wings sell loads of Modano jerseys when he joined the team? And as an American, Modano would have been a very well-known figure to Detroit fans. How about Shanahan for the Rangers? Sundin in Vancouver?

This isn't Sidney Crosby we're talking about. Iginla won't even be among the top 2-3 players on any team he goes to, so I wouldn't expect any marketing bonanza. The boat on Iginla having that sort of impact on a new team sailed 3-4 years ago.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Rudee

No way Pens will tinker with their top two lines right now. They have incredible chemistry. Kunitz, Dupuis having career years.....Crosby leading the league in points. They aren't going to put Iginla in the mix and ruin the chemistry. No way. besides, they need defensive help, if anything.

So just to be clear, you're saying there's no way?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by jaydub74

Hopefully the Flames aren't considering taking a 2014 1st from the Kings. Picking a year later will only delay turning this franchise around. If they can't get a 2013 pick I would prefer they got a prospect.

I've heard some people say that, while the 2014 draft isn't as top-heavy as 2013, the draft is deeper overall.

If we're going to be trading with a team that's going to pick 25-30, a 2014 1st rounder may not be a terrible idea.

[GreenLantern]

Not sure if posted yet but Mark Cullen outlines the four teams interested in Iginla and what they could offer, as well as past deadline deal trades for comparison:

http://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/story/?id=419228

[Ashasx]

The Pens have Dupuis in their top 6. Don't tell me there isn't room for improvement.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

What would be singularly stupid is handing the starting goaltender job to a guy who hasn't played a single game in the NHL. Apprenticing as a backup for a season or two is the normal route to becoming an NHL starter.

And the rest of the Flames' goaltending depth is 4-6 years away from NHL-starter ready.

Ramo has played several games in the NHL.