[Rumour] Flames interested in Arnott

[BEANZ]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Clever one liners aside, he showed he could still play last year, and would add size up the middle. How does it not make sense if they do it?

They are far better letting some of the kids in Abby get his minutes. Players can develop in the minors but at some point they need to play at the top level, continually bringing in mediocre old players takes that time away.

[FakenHaken]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

i'm not convinced that makes the team that much better. At best, it takes the flames from a 13/14th place team to a 10th/11th place team.

I'd prefer to avoid these bandaid fixes, and just let this team show what it's got over the next 15 games, and handle the future of the roster at the trade deadline based on where we sit.

(i'm sure i will be crapped on for this opinion, but just being honest).

Actually I agree I'm with you on this thinking. How do we really know what is on the farm. Questions of Nemisz, Byron, Breen, Bouma, Reinhart, Horak, and Carson. Evaluate and then be honest with yourselves for once.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

It adds one more body between Horak, Byron and Sven getting NHL icetime.

I wasn't aware those players were lining up at center. Street go the call up before Horak and Byron because he was a center, Arnott would hurt Street more than Horal and Byron.

[sadora]

Horrible idea if true. Team needs to get younger not older. Seriously hope this isn't true at all.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I wasn't aware those players were lining up at center. Street go the call up before Horak and Byron because he was a center, Arnott would hurt Street more than Horal and Byron.

That's weird, Horak played 61 games at centre last year for the Calgary Flames.

[Dorkmaster]

With the system Hartley employs, I can't see Arnott being a good fit, too slow. Then again we had Ben Street center the first line for a bit last night.

Worse comes to worse you trade him at the deadline. Don't see it helping the Flames much though.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by FakenHaken

Just an opinion, but if Johnny Hockey as rumoured is truly going to want to turn pro next year. I would save our last remaining roster contract spot and reward a kid like Johnny. I just think that the goodwill you have created and this kid has paid it back in spades deserves a pro contract. I know why when you could do that July 1, but it would be the goodwill factor of we are confident you will be a Calgary Flame next year. Rather than take a chance on an old rickety kneed centerman which doesn't get you to the playoffs anyways.

His dad said he wants to play at least one more year there and his brother joins the team too, so highly unlikely

[Locke]

Wait a second. So, we're desperate at centre? Considering Arnott?

Why not Craig Conroy?

I was wondering why Feaster kept giving Conroy some shifty sideways glances in the pressbox last night.....

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

That's weird, Horak played 61 games at centre last year for the Calgary Flames.

Horak's been playing RW for the Heat this season. I don't understand why myself since centre is our weak spot but maybe he couldn't beat out the centres already in Abby since everything is based on merit.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

His dad said he wants to play at least one more year there and his brother joins the team too, so highly unlikely

Did they ever close that Schultz loop hole?

[vektor]

There are multiple reasons in the long (ie. anything past the end of this short seasoned) run of it that this would be terrible for the team. From a standpoint of acquiring assets and improving our production:salary ration Arnott would set us back both in draft (if he did provide temporary relief) and he'd take away from the development of our future assets. All in all it would be an extremely shortsighted move and it's move like it that will continue to cripple us. Jason Arnott is not the answer, guys like Backlund, Street, Horak, Baertschi, Cervenka, Hudler, Ramo are where the team should focus

Those talents need to be developed and will in effect improve our salary to performance ratio while at the same time allowing us to draft higher in this extremely lucrative draft year. This kind of move is shooting yourself in the foot and then limping along like a wounded animal.

[FlamesAddiction]

One good thing about Arnott is that skating was never his best attribute anyway. When players get old, it's one of the things that usually drops off and since he has built his whole game around not relying on it, he can likely still play to his abilities.

[Enoch Root]

signing Arnott would be an embarrassment that reeks of desperation

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

signing Arnott would be an embarrassment that reeks of desperation

Dude. Kipper's down. This team's never been rich at centre. They dont trust the kids on the farm. Most of the team is playing like hot garbage.

They are desperate. Pretty much as desperate as desperate gets.

Management must think the talent pool in Abbotsford is pretty grim at this point. I dont see it that way, but I'm not a pro scout or anything.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by BEANZ

They are far better letting some of the kids in Abby get his minutes. Players can develop in the minors but at some point they need to play at the top level, continually bringing in mediocre old players takes that time away.

Who has shown in Abby they are ready? Horak may be able to do something on the 4th line but he may also be better served getting bigger minutes on the farm.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

i'm not convinced that makes the team that much better. At best, it takes the flames from a 13/14th place team to a 10th/11th place team.

I'd prefer to avoid these bandaid fixes, and just let this team show what it's got over the next 15 games, and handle the future of the roster at the trade deadline based on where we sit.

(i'm sure i will be crapped on for this opinion, but just being honest).

Until they are out of it, or decide they are out of it, I have no issue with them trying to address team needs in any way they can. They need size, they need help at centre – Arnott checks both boxes.

Signing Arnott doesn’t really change much beyond filling a very short-term hole.

[Igottago]

Dont think its worth it. The season is less than 3 months. Put in some kids and let them run with it if need be. We'll probably miss the playoffs either way, at least the youngsters get some experience. Look for a better solution in the summer. The stop gap solutions have to stop.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

It adds one more body between Horak, Byron and Sven getting NHL icetime.

Arnott isn't signed and two of those guys have been on the farm the entire season anyways. Doesn't seem like Arnott changes the situation much for either Horak or Byron.

As for Sven - when he gets healthy I'm confident he will get an opportunity again.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Arnott isn't signed and two of those guys have been on the farm the entire season anyways. Doesn't seem like Arnott changes the situation much for either Horak or Byron.

As for Sven - when he gets healthy I'm confident he will get an opportunity again.

I agree completely, there is already too much deadweight on the flames roster preventing exciting younger players from showing what they can do.

[FlamesAddiction]

Also, if he did sign and plays fairly well, he could be moved at the deadline for an asset assuming we are still out of it.