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In the very first episode Rick follows a helicopter in Atlanta on his horse. When he turns the corner he ran into a huge herd of zombies and ends up taking shelter in a tank. I wonder if that is the same group that eventually makes it to the farm.
Don't they show the zombies in Atlanta eating Rick's horse? That is what leads me to believe it is a flashback.
What a cool moment, I was doing that happy giggle laugh.
As for why the zombies are not attacking Michonne, seems that she has cut off not only the arms, but the bottom half of their jaws as well effectively making those zombies harmless. Possible that the zombies have just realized that they have no choice but to be docile.
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The hooded figure had two walkers shackled to her, with both of their arms and lower jaws cut off.
Dead Alive is the name of Jackson's film - it is more comedy than anything else. Tons of gore. Good but not really as good as the other classics you mention.
What is World War Z? That's one I don't know about.
Try Dead Snow. Wouldn't make it on my best of list for zombie flicks - but it is good fun.
Yeah Dead Snow is pretty decent and kind of in the mold of Dead Alive in that it's not very serious but piles on the gore.
Back to topic I can't get headshots as easy in Call of Duty as these survivors on the show. Did I miss the episode where the survivors passed a master marksman course? How does an old dude like Hershel fire of multiple shotgun blasts never flinching from recoil? I know a lot of bow hunters that would envious of Daryl's ability to hit walker's eyeballs every single time. Rick tells Carl on the highway to keep his voice down so not to attract walkers but when they are driving in convoy and running out of gas he honks his horn to signal to the others to stop at set up camp. I realize that realism has to take a back seat for entertainment value but at times I feel the show is insulting my intelligence.
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As for why the zombies are not attacking Michonne, seems that she has cut off not only the arms, but the bottom half of their jaws as well effectively making those zombies harmless. Possible that the zombies have just realized that they have no choice but to be docile.
It's like "Roots" meets "Afro Samurai" in that image.
That is incredibly sad, and to be serious for a moment, I wonder if such a sudden and isolated 'outbreak' of something like this might have an even more sinister explanation than just a mystery disease - namely testing of biological or other types of futuristic weapons? Before you call me a conspiracy theorist, keep in mind the US (among other countries) does have a history of such things.
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Now that Shane is dead, I can explain how badly they dropped the ball with Carl and Ricks characters.
*comics spoiler*
Spoiler!
In the comics, Rick did not doddle around with Shane, in fact, he killed him shockingly quick (ie - we wouldn't of seen much of Shane in season two). There was also a set of twin boys in the survivors group, one of these boys becomes psychopathic, mutilating small animals before killing and mutilating the other twin boy. After one twin kills the other, the adults can't figure out how to deal with him, so Carl goes ahead and executes the surviving twin on his own (instead, they decided to have Carl get shot and completely suck the life out of the show).
This created a duality between Carl and Rick's characters, their ability to make hard decisions and how dispensable they consider other members of the group to be when it comes to their mutual survival.
I never expected the Rick of the comics to make it the TV, his nature is way too brutal to be the protagonist of a mainstream TV series. But it's easy enough for his character to be tweaked and remain interesting. Carl's character (which is quite good in the comics), is now completely broken and unredeemable.
i don't want to highjack the thread, but do you have examples of this?
MKULTRA for one, a CIA project administering LSD to subjects without their knowledge or informed consent (Operation Midnight Climax is a particularily interesting sub-project) in order to test its viability as a mind-control drug. Part of their research was also done on Canadian mental patients with the help of a psychiatrist named Donald Ewen Cameron.
Some more:
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In 1956 and 1957, several U.S. Army biological warfare experiments were conducted on the cities of Savannah, Georgia and Avon Park, Florida. In the experiments, Army bio-warfare researchers released millions of infected mosquitoes on the two towns, in order to see if the insects could potentially spread yellow fever and dengue fever. Hundreds of residents contracted a wide array of illnesses, including fevers, respiratory problems, stillbirths, encephalitis, and typhoid. Army researchers pretended to be public health workers, so that they could photograph and perform medical tests on the victims. Several people died as a result of the experiments.
Regarding human radiation experiments:
The experiments included a wide array of studies, involving things like feeding radioactive food to mentally disabled children or conscientious objectors, inserting radium rods into the noses of soldiers, deliberately releasing radioactive chemicals over U.S. and Canadian cities, measuring the health effects of radioactive fallout from nuclear bomb tests, injecting pregnant women and babies with radioactive chemicals, and irradiating the testicles of prison inmates, amongst other things.
Most of the information seems to cite legitimate sources, and I know we should take everything on Wiki with a grain of salt, but it's convenient in this instance.
The point I'm trying to make is that while these may be decades-old examples, we are naive if we think they're not still going on, just further away from prying eyes. The US (although I'm certainly not excluding other countries) has quite a colourful history in this regard. I am interested to see, decades from now, what kind of information is released in regards to the things they are doing today.
And sorry for the hi-jack, perhaps we should start a new thread if we want to continue this discussion.
If any of you are interested in reading the comics there is a iphone app. called the walking dead that you can download every issue for $.99/issue. You can also order real copies in the app. for $2.99/issue.
It's the same helicopter that Rick saw on his way into Atlanta. All those scenes are flashes of how the "herd" comes together and moves out of Atlanta and into the country and eventually end up by the farm. When they are in the woods they are actually moving past the farm until Carl shoots Shane.
You might ask how did they get out there so quickly but the show isn't day by day. When they first take Randal back to the farm Hershel says he'll be layed up for at least a week, probably longer. The next episode he's ready to go, so who knows how much time has passed, at least a week, but I would suspect more as he's fully heeled. Not to mention the walkers don't need to stop and rest.
I am guessing they've been on the farm for months.
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So I'm thinking we should all thank new Exexutive Producer Glen Mazzara. He took over the show once Darabont stepped down and it seems he and creator Robert Kirkman, who also joined the show in the 2nd season full time really kicked the show up several notches. He seems to really get the show more then Darabont ever did.
The way Kirkamn and Mazzara handled the last half of season two, really has me excited for how great season three will be.
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Now that Shane is dead, I can explain how badly they dropped the ball with Carl and Ricks characters.
*comics spoiler*
Spoiler!
In the comics, Rick did not doddle around with Shane, in fact, he killed him shockingly quick (ie - we wouldn't of seen much of Shane in season two). There was also a set of twin boys in the survivors group, one of these boys becomes psychopathic, mutilating small animals before killing and mutilating the other twin boy. After one twin kills the other, the adults can't figure out how to deal with him, so Carl goes ahead and executes the surviving twin on his own (instead, they decided to have Carl get shot and completely suck the life out of the show).
This created a duality between Carl and Rick's characters, their ability to make hard decisions and how dispensable they consider other members of the group to be when it comes to their mutual survival.
I never expected the Rick of the comics to make it the TV, his nature is way too brutal to be the protagonist of a mainstream TV series. But it's easy enough for his character to be tweaked and remain interesting. Carl's character (which is quite good in the comics), is now completely broken and unredeemable.
This is why reading sucks. Kidding of course, but a part of me gets frustrated that when a show/movie that is based on a book/comics etc has something different, the immediate reaction is that the adaptation is worse than the source material.
In the credits, it clearly says "based on the series of graphic novels", it doesn't say "a word for word adaptation of the graphic novel". There's nothing wrong with changing it up a bit. Why can't the writers put their own spin on this story without being ripped to shreds for it?
Now I haven't read the comics so I can't comment what was better or worse or whatever, but this isolated analysis of the characters is not what I have issue with. It's the overall notion that way more often than not that if a tv show or movie strays away fromt the source material a bit, they automatically dropped the ball. I vehemently disagree with that notion.
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I am 4 volumes in so far and I still like the show a lot better.
This coming from a comic book fan..
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