01-24-2012, 12:11 PM
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#121
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by IliketoPuck
I agree Mr. Remington.
Canada is just like Mexico. Selective statistics can prove any point you want to make.
57 murders in Edmonton per year, cool.
50 murders in Mexico a day, selective statistics at its finest.
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Those 50 murders a day are not occurring in Cancun, Mayan, PV, Mazatlan, etc., though. Stay out of trouble like you would at home, and the resort areas are no worse than most other countries.
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01-24-2012, 12:12 PM
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#122
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by fotze
It is pretty uncanny that different people like different things, blows my mind every day that everyone else isn't wearng the same thing I am, driving the same car, going to the same office. Like how does that happen? So weird.
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I find wearing crotchless panties and a ball gag a tad uncomfortable.
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01-24-2012, 12:15 PM
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#123
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Easter back on in Vancouver
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5 murders per 1.6 million visitors is pretty good in my eyes. I'm going to Mexico in a week or so and I'll feel as safe as I am in Calgary.
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01-24-2012, 12:16 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Originally Posted by Boblobla
No problem, I aim to please. I have also only been to Mexico once but I am clearly an expert.
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Haha fair enough, all good.
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01-24-2012, 12:16 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzard
Those 50 murders a day are not occurring in Cancun, Mayan, PV, Mazatlan, etc., though. Stay out of trouble like you would at home, and the resort areas are no worse than most other countries.
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Absolutely.
But I wouldn't exactly call Edmonton a hot bed of tourist activity in Canada either.
The article is selective on purpose.
Wherever you live, if you go looking for trouble or put yourself in compromising situations then you are asking for something bad to happen.
But to compare Mexico to Canada is a bit much for me.
Rampant corruption, gang wars, etc. Doesn't exactly sound like my evening news on CTV.
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01-24-2012, 12:20 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IliketoPuck
Absolutely.
But I wouldn't exactly call Edmonton a hot bed of tourist activity in Canada either.
The article is selective on purpose.
Wherever you live, if you go looking for trouble or put yourself in compromising situations then you are asking for something bad to happen.
But to compare Mexico to Canada is a bit much for me.
Rampant corruption, gang wars, etc. Doesn't exactly sound like my evening news on CTV.
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That's because you don't live in Vancouver!
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01-24-2012, 12:24 PM
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#127
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: An all-inclusive.
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I don't know the circumstances for her beating, but if you're traveling abroad you have to keep your wits about you. I don't care if you're at a resort or some fumbuck hostel. Doing stupid things result in bad experiences. I've been all over the world, and I've had minimal problems because I don't take stupid risks.
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01-24-2012, 12:24 PM
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#128
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Easter back on in Vancouver
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Originally Posted by fotze
You paid for your buddy's trip, didn't you?
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Hahaha absolutely not. He's actually in Detroit right now so I guess he's made other arrangements.
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01-24-2012, 12:26 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IliketoPuck
I agree Mr. Remington.
Canada is just like Mexico. Selective statistics can prove any point you want to make.
57 murders in Edmonton per year, cool.
50 murders in Mexico a day, selective statistics at its finest.
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I dunno, my very very quick math based on these numbers suggests you are only twice as likely to be murdered in mexico than edmonton. Sure that might be significant, but if you're gonna be killed, better to happen on a beautiful beach than a denny's in mill woods.
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01-24-2012, 12:31 PM
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#130
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by puckluck
Hahaha absolutely not. He's actually in Detroit right now so I guess he's made other arrangements.
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detroit then mexico? sounds like your friend is a daredevil
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01-24-2012, 12:31 PM
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#131
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
I dunno, my very very quick math based on these numbers suggests you are only twice as likely to be murdered in mexico than edmonton. Sure that might be significant, but if you're gonna be killed, better to happen on a beautiful beach than a denny's in mill woods.
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The point I'm trying to make is that the article writer cherry picked stats to back up his article that Canada is no different than Mexico, which I think is completely out to lunch.
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01-24-2012, 12:32 PM
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#132
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: An all-inclusive.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
WEll then you can't really say your advice is sound. If you had done all sort of dumb things, then you can say keeping your wits is a good idea, plus your travel story would be a hell of a lot more interesting. 
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Don't get me wrong, all my best travel stories involve doing something I probably shouldn't have. I do, however, have a rule to not get black out drunk abroad because that is a recipe for disaster.
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01-24-2012, 12:35 PM
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#133
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
WEll then you can't really say your advice is sound. If you had done all sort of dumb things, then you can say keeping your wits is a good idea, plus your travel story would be a hell of a lot more interesting.
Cabo is the safest. Cool hotel.
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I assumed the NSFW meant a picture of naked chicks on the beach in Cabo, when it wasn't I was sad.
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01-24-2012, 12:37 PM
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#134
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Franchise Player
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Alright, enough Mexico hate. let's put them back in the good books for at least a few minutes...
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01-24-2012, 12:41 PM
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#135
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: An all-inclusive.
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All of Mexico is like Dusk til Dawn. An academician told me so.
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01-24-2012, 12:44 PM
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#136
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Kybosh
All of Mexico is like Dusk til Dawn. An academician told me so.
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Last edited by Flabbibulin; 01-24-2012 at 12:46 PM.
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01-24-2012, 12:44 PM
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#137
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck
5 murders per 1.6 million visitors is pretty good in my eyes. I'm going to Mexico in a week or so and I'll feel as safe as I am in Calgary.
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Misleading statistics that completely disregard time as a function. When you live in Calgary you probably spend on average 49 weeks here vs. 7-14 days when you visit Mexico.
Normalize the statistics for time and annualize that Mexican Statistic based on an average stay of 2 weeks to be conservative and it's more like
76.6 murders per Million Canadian visitor years
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8 murders per Million people who live in Calgary based on 2011 stats
Adjusting for this indicates you're more likely to get murdered in Mexico spending equal time there. Hell even Edmonton is twice as safe based on that stat.
Last edited by Cowboy89; 01-24-2012 at 12:46 PM.
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01-24-2012, 12:48 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboy89
Hell even Edmonton is twice as safe based on that stat.
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I would suggest that 2 weeks is probably on the high side which makes the numbers even worse.
Heck, as you say - a place that makes Edmonton look THAT safe has to be an absolute cesspool/warzone.
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01-24-2012, 12:49 PM
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#139
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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But you are taking the murder rate for an entire country and comparing it to a city. If you take the Mayan Rivera numbers then I am sure it would appear much safer.
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01-24-2012, 12:51 PM
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#140
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
WEll then you can't really say your advice is sound. If you had done all sort of dumb things, then you can say keeping your wits is a good idea, plus your travel story would be a hell of a lot more interesting.
Cabo is the safest. Cool hotel.
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While it looks nice.. it is old, run down and the food was garbage. Stay at the Hilton instead, or the Zoetry if you want to hob-nob with celebrities.
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