2011 NFL thread

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Tough break for the Bears...Cutler was really starting to look like he had gotten over the nonsense that seemed to follow him everywhere and the bears O line was playing at an NFL level for the first time in a long while.

Im dissapointed. The stats didnt show it, but Cutler was a huge part of that option behind Forte, and was really getting into a groove in the passing game. As bad as it sounds, this is why QBs shouldnt chase down interceptions if D-linemen are setting up lead blocks.

I am not giving up hope yet, as it sounds like he could be ready for the playoff push and I think Chicago's defense, special teams and running game is enough to carry them over some of the weaker teams they have left on the schedule.
They have done it before with Orton and Grossman, and Hanie isnt horrendous by any account as shown by last seasons NFC Championship.

However, I was looking forward to the Bears possibly ending the Packers' perfect season,, which now looks hopeless.

[Spuds_Buckley]

Another huge divisional win this week for the Ravens.

I have a bad feeling about traveling out to San Fran for the Thursday night game. It just seems like another letdown game in the making.

Torrey Smith is emerging as a star receiver with each passing week...

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Good break (no pun intended) for the Raiders though as I had next week's game penciled in as a home loss to the Bears. Now especially if DMC returns hard to imagine the Bears travelling West and beating the Raiders with Caleb Hanie starting. Maybe it's me but I can't recall a year with so many players going down to injury. The Raiders haven't been healthy all year and have been starting rookies and undrafted players in the secondary all season, losing their starting QB for the season, Matt Shaughnessy lost for the season, starting RB for 4 games, only one receiver has started every game this year. DHB was carted off yesterday and Seymour could only play a few downs. Maybe the long training camps and preseason is more important than originally thought as injuries have always been part of the game but this year some teams are being depleated.

The injuries at the QB position for teams in the mix for Division title/playoff berths stands out to me. Seems like the more they put rules in to protect QB's...the more injuries that occur at the position. Between injuries and ineptness at the position there's already 17 teams who've had to use more than one player at the position by the time next week's games start.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Denver could have a serious inside track on the 2nd AFC Wildcard spot. Wins against the Bengals and Jets. Potential win against the Bills too given how they look right now. I think 9-7 would do it. If they can beat KC with Shane Falko at QB, the Bills, Vikings, plus one more against the reeling Chargers, Cutler-less Bears they might do it. Fart..8-8 might be good enough in the AFC. I can see the likes of Cincy, Buffalo, and the Jets losing games to someone they shouldn't.

Denver is one game i have penned in as a win for the Bears, and they could do it Tebow style. Without throwing a pass.

The Bears defense has shown time and time again that it can completely immobilize scrambling quarterbacks (4-0 vs Vick) and their style of play. There is no way the Broncos and their college football offense will put up enough points against the Bears to win, even with a backup QB in.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Im dissapointed. The stats didnt show it, but Cutler was a huge part of that option behind Forte, and was really getting into a groove in the passing game. As bad as it sounds, this is why QBs shouldnt chase down interceptions if D-linemen are setting up lead blocks.

I am not giving up hope yet, as it sounds like he could be ready for the playoff push and I think Chicago's defense, special teams and running game is enough to carry them over some of the weaker teams they have left on the schedule.
They have done it before with Orton and Grossman, and Hanie isnt horrendous by any account as shown by last seasons NFC Championship.

However, I was looking forward to the Bears possibly ending the Packers' perfect season,, which now looks hopeless.

Disagree...they will lose one, probably two games...but it was never going to be to the Bears at Lambeau.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Spuds_Buckley

Another huge divisional win this week for the Ravens.

I have a bad feeling about traveling out to San Fran for the Thursday night game. It just seems like another letdown game in the making.

Torrey Smith is emerging as a star receiver with each passing week...

Its tough to say letdown game against a 9-1 team. It should be a great game, as these are what the Ravens tend to step up for,but I guess you could see junk Ravens too

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Spuds_Buckley

Another huge divisional win this week for the Ravens.

I have a bad feeling about traveling out to San Fran for the Thursday night game. It just seems like another letdown game in the making.

Torrey Smith is emerging as a star receiver with each passing week...

With those two defenses, the over/under might come in at 27.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Your Texas goggles are getting thicker as the years go on, I will give you that.

How's that? I just thought it was interesting that you were defending Tebow and never afforded Vince Young that same defense even though he had more proven results in the stat you used to defend Tebow. Thought it was a bit odd. I do think Young will get another shot to be a starter in this league, but what he does with it who knows.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Disagree...they will lose one, probably two games...but it was never going to be to the Bears at Lambeau.

I think they had a pretty good shot at it. Over the past 2 seasons, nobody has allowed fewer points to the Packers then the Bears, and the Bears are the only team with a winning record against Aaron Rodgers. The wide recievers and Cutler were actuully starting to hit a stride together and with Forte being one of the best in the league, I think they had all the dynamics to have a good shot at it, especially as the Bears defense is much better rounded then the Packers' has been for the majority of the season.

This is far from the same team that the Packers saw earlier this season

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Spuds_Buckley

Another huge divisional win this week for the Ravens.

I have a bad feeling about traveling out to San Fran for the Thursday night game. It just seems like another letdown game in the making.

Torrey Smith is emerging as a star receiver with each passing week...

Isn't the game in Baltimore?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Sowa

How's that? I just thought it was interesting that you were defending Tebow and never afforded Vince Young that same defense even though he had more proven results in the stat you used to defend Tebow. Thought it was a bit odd. I do think Young will get another shot to be a starter in this league, but what he does with it who knows.

Im not defending tebow....read it when i say the guy wont be an NFL QB....doesnt mean that what he is doing right now isn't worthy of praise though. The guy is winning...period. Thats it and thats all...i highly doubt it continues much longer but I wont count him out as his character is what seperates him from a Vince Young type guy.

[DropIt]

Confirmed the Cutler will need surgery, will be out 6-8 weeks. Bears will keep him off the I.R in hopes he can return for the playoffs

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Denver is one game i have penned in as a win for the Bears, and they could do it Tebow style. Without throwing a pass.

The Bears defense has shown time and time again that it can completely immobilize scrambling quarterbacks (4-0 vs Vick) and their style of play. There is no way the Broncos and their college football offense will put up enough points against the Bears to win, even with a backup QB in.

No way? Unfortunately I dont think it is the 'college football offense' that will be of primary concern for the Bears.

I wouldn't compare Tebow to Vick. When Tebow is running it is almost always a designed run. the win against the bears would be a bonus for sure and a tall order but I don't think I'm out of line saying that you're a little bit over confident.

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Im not defending tebow....read it when i say the guy wont be an NFL QB....doesnt mean that what he is doing right now isn't worthy of praise though. The guy is winning...period. Thats it and thats all...i highly doubt it continues much longer but I wont count him out as his character is what seperates him from a Vince Young type guy.

What about trying to "make it rain" at a strip club and then getting into a fight doesnt shout out character to you? yeah Vince Young is a piece of work, if the Giants played even a halfway decent game, Young with his 3 picks is the goat. In spite of Vince proclaiming he will win a Super Bowl and be in the Hall of Fame, its not going to happen.

[Lil Pedro]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Being a Chargers fan for years can only be summed up like this:

The Chargers are a Razor Cake team; being a Chargers fan is like being offered a cake that you know has a razor in the middle. The guy has offered you a cake before and always has put a razor in the middle, so you know it’s there. But the cake is so good you tell yourself that you’ll just eat the edges. Then you start eating and it’s so good that you convince yourself there aren’t razors in it this time. Next thing you know, you wake up with bandages in your mouth in a psyche ward because this is the 900th time you’ve done this!!

every time they have a chance, they shoot themselves in the foot...

After watching them this season, I almost wish the lockout wasn't over

[Sainters7]

Saints/Lions game in week 13 just got flexed to Sunday night, love it. That's back to back primetime games for the Saints, which is great because they always seem to play their best games in those ones. Especially at the Dome.

Giants & Lions back to back, should be a couple air shows.

[Spuds_Buckley]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Isn't the game in Baltimore?

So it is. For some reason I had it in my head it was out west.

The battle of the Harbaugh's should be entertaining. I hope Ray Lewis is back in the lineup this week.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

What about trying to "make it rain" at a strip club and then getting into a fight doesnt shout out character to you?

Wrong ex-Titan. That was Pacman just being rebellion.

[Bobblehead]

49ers are fairly healthy, but starting right tackle Anthony Davis hurt his ankle yesterday and the short week may not give him a chance to come back. He has really played well this year since a shaky rookie season.

And rookie FB Bruce Miller sustained a concussion but the back up is 11 year vet Moran Norris, so that isn't as big a loss.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

What about trying to "make it rain" at a strip club and then getting into a fight doesnt shout out character to you? yeah Vince Young is a piece of work, if the Giants played even a halfway decent game, Young with his 3 picks is the goat. In spite of Vince proclaiming he will win a Super Bowl and be in the Hall of Fame, its not going to happen.

His off the field issues really aren't that bad. I mean Big Ben has way worse off the field character issues. It's how he reacted to a bad situation in Tennessee that is the issue. To his credit he went to Philly to repair his reputation, let's see if he actually has learned. And you think "making it rain" at a strip club is a character issue? If so, 3/4 of professional athletes and musicians have character issues. One of the interceptions wasn't his fault and should have been pass interference, but it doesn't matter.