06-03-2011, 07:09 PM
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#901
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
I guess you're right, breaking a lease is actually breaking a contract, where as this kid didn't even do that, he just choose not to sign one.
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The vast majority of people would move to the new house.
The vast majority of prospects sign with the team they are drafted by if the team shows interest.
Thats all there is to it.
Last edited by Beerfest; 06-03-2011 at 07:19 PM.
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06-03-2011, 07:11 PM
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#902
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerfest
The vass majority of people would move to the new house.
The vass majority of prospects sign with the team they are drafted by if the team shows interest.
Thats all there is to it.
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I'm not sure that is a very ethical or moral position, but if thats ok with you who am I to argue!
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06-03-2011, 07:14 PM
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#903
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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lol, "vass majority".
EDIT: Unless you were reffering to Vass Majority, the Christian Rock musician from Newport, Michigan. In which case, I apoligize for laughing and please, carry on.
Last edited by jayswin; 06-03-2011 at 07:22 PM.
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06-03-2011, 07:19 PM
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#904
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flameswin
lol, "vass majority".
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lol,
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06-03-2011, 07:20 PM
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#905
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
I'm not sure that is a very ethical or moral position, but if thats ok with you who am I to argue!
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Whatever you say.
Its pretty obvious your comparison was off base.
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06-04-2011, 12:08 AM
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#906
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Lifetime Suspension
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(only managed to read 10+ pages of this thread, sorry if its been brought up...)
Why didn't we dump a contract (Stajan,Hagman???), if we had to lose Erixon? Feaster's so busy reminding us how bare the cupboards are, when its not even the number 1 issue facing this franchise....its - overpaid deadweight.
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06-04-2011, 12:13 AM
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#907
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
The only way to make that fair would be to also have teams be forced to give ELCs to all drafted players.
There is another side to the coin too. Deliert, Bjorklund and Bennett were all drafted by the Flames and unable to negotiate with other NHL teams for 2 years, and they have nothing to show for it. It's a crappy business sometimes.
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that is a very good point, and I would accept that, as long as teams can pass on their draft choices in the later rounds
someone previously suggested not allowing bonuses on contracts of players that re-enter the draft by their own choice, I think this might be a good idea
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06-04-2011, 12:16 AM
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#908
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Where ru Chris O'Sullivan
(only managed to read 10+ pages of this thread, sorry if its been brought up...)
Why didn't we dump a contract (Stajan,Hagman???), if we had to lose Erixon? Feaster's so busy reminding us how bare the cupboards are, when its not even the number 1 issue facing this franchise....its - overpaid deadweight.
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it wouldn't have mattered, Feaster told Erixon he would make room for him and it made zero difference... and everytime Feaster offered a solution they came up with a new excuse
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06-04-2011, 12:38 AM
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#909
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Lunatik
it wouldn't have mattered, Feaster told Erixon he would make room for him and it made zero difference... and everytime Feaster offered a solution they came up with a new excuse
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No, I meant after the fact (we were losing Erixon, no matter what), why not force the NYR to take one of our sexy contracts as well.
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06-04-2011, 12:45 AM
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#910
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Because they probably would have said no and then just drafted him instead. Why would they agree to such a deal? Makes no sense from their point of view.
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06-04-2011, 01:01 AM
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#911
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Where ru Chris O'Sullivan
No, I meant after the fact (we were losing Erixon, no matter what), why not force the NYR to take one of our sexy contracts as well.
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What Jiri said... there is no reason they would take one, they would chance it and package their 2nds to move up and try to draft him
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06-04-2011, 03:26 AM
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#912
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Franchise Player
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In all of this controversy, we have lost sight of the 'winners' in all of this:
Horak and Howse.
I am sure they will enter Abby much more comfortable and with the best chance to develop.
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06-04-2011, 05:00 AM
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#913
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
In all of this controversy, we have lost sight of the 'winners' in all of this:
Horak and Howse.
I am sure they will enter Abby much more comfortable and with the best chance to develop.
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I agree... who cares about what we lost. Lets enjoy what we got
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06-04-2011, 05:46 AM
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#914
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Kanata, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
In all of this controversy, we have lost sight of the 'winners' in all of this:
Horak and Howse.
I am sure they will enter Abby much more comfortable and with the best chance to develop.
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The way I see it we have lost the last 4 or 5 trades the Flames have taken part in. Rebuild, it is inevitable.
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06-04-2011, 08:05 AM
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#915
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunblad
The way I see it we have lost the last 4 or 5 trades the Flames have taken part in. Rebuild, it is inevitable.
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The White trade went pretty well if you ask me. A couple free agency pickups also look good. However, too say this team is stuck between a rock and a hard place right now isn't an over stating things.
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06-04-2011, 08:08 AM
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#916
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunblad
The way I see it we have lost the last 4 or 5 trades the Flames have taken part in. Rebuild, it is inevitable.
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Babchuk & Kostopoulos >>>> White & Sutter
The Flames very clearly won that trade and that was the last trade before the Erixon trade which was forced upon us...
Erixon was gone no mater what we did, so turning a compensation pick that would have been 53rd into 45th, 57th and Horak is a win as well
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06-04-2011, 08:17 AM
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#917
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Franchise Player
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Horak, 45th, 57 will all be stars, the sucker that went to NYR will fail and head back to SEL.
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06-04-2011, 08:20 AM
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#918
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Horak, 45th, 57 will all be stars, the sucker that went to NYR will fail and head back to SEL.
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Wish I had your confidence. However, I still think we have a shot at Richards. So calling you delusional would be a bit hypocritical.
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06-04-2011, 11:10 AM
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#919
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatik
Babchuk & Kostopoulos >>>> White & Sutter
The Flames very clearly won that trade and that was the last trade before the Erixon trade which was forced upon us...
Erixon was gone no mater what we did, so turning a compensation pick that would have been 53rd into 45th, 57th and Horak is a win as well
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While we did win that trade it was part of one of the worst trades during the Sutter regime. Knowing what we could have got for Phaneuf and what we are saddle with now is depressing to say the least and the fact that Babs doesn't seem to be in the fold as a UFA makes the above trade meh at the end of the day.
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06-04-2011, 11:41 AM
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#920
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
While we did win that trade it was part of one of the worst trades during the Sutter regime. Knowing what we could have got for Phaneuf and what we are saddle with now is depressing to say the least and the fact that Babs doesn't seem to be in the fold as a UFA makes the above trade meh at the end of the day.
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we could have gotten a different deal in the off-season, absolutely. I'm sure we could have gotten some picks/prospects in the deal - but Sutter was trying to save the season, and ultimately it was a big reason why he lost his job.
I wish he would have waited until the off-season. Even if it wasn't "better", so long as it was a different package for Dion, we'd be in a better situation. Sutter really did some significant damage to this organization in that 2-3 month span from the Dion trade until the end of the season.
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