Man charged with importing child porn commits suicide in police lot

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by EDBTZ12

Why do you care? Are you related to him or something?

Well, I suppose that question equally applies to your original post... why do you care? Was a family-member of yours hurt by him?

I guess I just don't have much respect for sniping at a guy who's already dead. My problem though.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Dion

The guy was a coward. He took the easy way out as opposed to taking responsibility for his actions and doing his time in prison.

Or perhaps he realized how much of a sick SOB he really was, that he would never be "cured", so the only way to be sure he would never hurt another child was to end his life.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

1. EDBTZ12, if you are going to comment on a serious subject, please be an adult about it. I know that you are likely in grade 10 but to imply that someone is related to this guy because they disagree with taking shots at a dead guy, seems pretty immature to me.

2. Child porn is absolutely disgusting as are the people who are involved with it at every level, whether it be the people victimizing the children or the consumers of the product and it should be dealt with harshly. I don't have any sympathy for the guy but at the same time people should be studied to determine who is at risk of developing these addictions (if that is the right term?) so we can prevent it in the future.

3. Hopefully they can use the images of the kid and use them to help find the victims.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Dion

Charges are often upgraded when more evidence is found. Who's to say the police/RCMP aren't looking further into this mans past.

I would assume charges of possession and importation of child pornography would involve actually looking at the evidence first, kid of a basic first step.

I'm not saying that the guy didn't engage in those acts, just that a trial on what he was charged with wouldn't bring any of that out.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by valo403

I would assume charges of possession and importation of child pornography would involve actually looking at the evidence first, kid of a basic first step.

I'm not saying that the guy didn't engage in those acts, just that a trial on what he was charged with wouldn't bring any of that out.

I'm not saying that a trial would bring those acts up. My comments were based on my beliefs that the man was afraid a part of his past would be discovered and put on trail at a later date.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Or perhaps he realized how much of a sick SOB he really was, that he would never be "cured", so the only way to be sure he would never hurt another child was to end his life.

I can see that as a possibilty also. Good point!

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Dion

I'm not saying that a trial would bring those acts up. My comments were based on my beliefs that the man was afraid a part of his past would be discovered and put on trail at a later date.

Ah okay, sorry I misinterpreted.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I guess I'm the only one who feels a little sympathetic here. There is absolutely no excuse for child pornography, but I think a lot of these guys are mentally attracted to it in ways they almost can't help. That doesn't justify their actions in anyway, but I can't wish death upon them. Strict punishment and mental assistance to deal with their attractions would be better IMO.
Maybe death on molesters, but not on child porn viewers.

Even molesters I don't know if death is "fair". As you say, these people (not always guys) have an attraction to kids in the same way most of us have an attraction to women or men. Put yourself in their shoes, how would it be living like that, having to choose between abstaining from a basic human need your whole life and acting out on your attraction knowing that you are hurting what you love. Damned if you do and doubly damned if you don't.

I agree, punishment along with some kind of mental assistance, I doubt it is curable but support to be able to not act out.

Of course this doesn't apply to actual rapists; there are rapists who prey on women and that's about violence, not sex, and I would think there would be the same thing with people attracted to kids.. a crime of violence not sexual attraction.

(Though even with rapists it would be nice to be able to help these people change rather than putting them in prison and expecting them to get it together.. it's so medieval).

Originally Posted by ken0042

Or perhaps he realized how much of a sick SOB he really was, that he would never be "cured", so the only way to be sure he would never hurt another child was to end his life.

Could be, not wanting to go to prison to endure what he would have went through there could have been part of it too, if he knew there was no way he'd win.

But just imagine being hated by pretty much everyone, reviled for something that isn't your fault. Never able to have a normal relationship, never able to truly have an honest friendship, always having that secret. What kind of psychological havoc can that have on someone even if they never act out on their desires? We're social beings, and these people would be alone forever.

Cmon mental medicine, hurry up.

[mykalberta]

If he was giulty, have a nice time burning in eternity - too bad the abortion option didnt exist for his parents.

[Devils'Advocate]

Hrm. There seemed to be a lot more sympathy for the guy I posted about before - a guy that definitely DID molest someone:
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=60569

In that thread I tried to keep my personal opinion out of it and just give facts so as to not influence the direction of the thread. But I'll bite here.

I think there is a spectrum of offenses: possessing child pornography, distributing child pornography, non-penetration molestation, raping a child, creating pornography of child sex acts. The first one is usually sentenced with about 4 months house arrest. Yet most people do not recognize that spectrum. One is just as bad as the other. Now as much as I abhor defending people collecting kiddy porn, I just don't think this guy warranted death.

The people I have no sympathy for is those that actually touch a child. I don't buy that "where there is smoke there is fire" argument made in this thread. Unless there is proof that this guy molested children, I don't think it fair to assume that he has.

I think that owning child pornography needs to be punished, and punished severely. I don't think Canada punishes people nearly severely enough. But I don't think they deserve the punishment others have suggest in this thread. Save that for those that actually harm a child. *THAT* I have absolutely *NO* sympathy for.