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Old 09-17-2013, 04:09 PM   #421
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back 4 picks itself but my guess for the others is

Carrick - Fellani - Giggs
Rooney- RVP - Welbeck

maybe rotate and have Rooney central with Giggs on a wing, but based on today I dont see Giggs being left out
why, because Moyes played his best XI (except for Smalling) in his first ever CL game? Giggs also didn't play against Palace, so I actually expected him today ... but we can't forget that he is not simply a player anymore, he's also a coach this season, so I'd expect to see him in less games this year. Even Moyes has to realize that Giggs is not fast enough any more and that he shouldn't start in important games like that, especially now with Nani, Young and Kagawa all back, Valencia firing on all cylinders and Welbeck very deserving of chances as well. Simply too many good options ahead of him and looking at your proposed lineup, I doubt that Moyes will go without a "real" winger - United almost never does. Also Giggs/Evra on the left side against Navas/Zabaleta would be a nightmare of epic proportions.

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Old 09-17-2013, 04:18 PM   #422
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we'll see, I wouldn't start him I just think he would have at least been on the bench today if he wasn't going to start sunday

Fergie used him only 5 months ago vs RM and vs City in April as a starter

I think Moyes will follow that model for a little while yet, he's pragmatic
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:47 PM   #423
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doubt it. They need somebody who pushes Zabaleta back with speed and that has to be Welbeck IMO.

De Gea
Rafael - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra
Carrick - Fellaini
Valencia - Rooney - Welbeck
van Persie

book it.
Rafael's healthy?
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:51 PM   #424
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I saw Fergie using Giggs in Central Midfield position alot last season. Which was irritating.

Against real, he played a more defensive winger position.

With Fellaini I don't see that option, but who knows -- most of us think of Giggs as past his expiration date.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:58 PM   #425
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Rafael's healthy?
he's training with the squad ... don't know if he's already fit enough to return though.
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:11 PM   #426
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Hamstring injury, no return date yet.

http://www.physioroom.com/news/engli...jury_table.php

Fantasy Premier League states that he is expected back September 22 though.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:21 AM   #427
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Coutinho out 4-6 weeks
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Old 09-18-2013, 10:55 AM   #428
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Thats a huge blow.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:34 AM   #429
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From the beeb.

"Samuel Eto'o retains his place up front for Chelsea for the visit of Fulham, while Juan Mata and David Luiz are not even in the squad as boss Jose Mourinho makes four changes to the side beaten 2-1 at home by Basel in Europe."

What the hell gives with Mourinho and Mata?And why isn't Moyes juming on this chance to stir things regarding that whole scenario particularly with reference to throwing Mourinho's merde stirring comments back in his face way back when he was trying to land Rooney.

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Jose Mourinho has warned players that being "second choice" at their club could damage their prospects of playing at the World Cup next summer. The Chelsea manager was speaking two days after Manchester United rejected a bid from the Blues for Wayne Rooney.
The England forward, 27, was angered by a suggestion he could be back-up to Robin van Persie at Old Trafford.
"For a player to be selected for his country, normally he must be first choice at his club," Mourinho said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23353195


Can only dream of a Fulham win today and the subsequent reaction.


Can you imagine the abuse Benitez would be getting following losses to Everton and Basel and then dumping Mata from the squad?
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Old 09-21-2013, 04:28 PM   #430
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The rumors that Jose is just on a campaign to ruin Spain look more likely by the day

first Casillas, now Mata...
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Man I just know moyes is gonna start giggs.
I pray it's on the wing.
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The rumors that Jose is just on a campaign to ruin Spain look more likely by the day

first Casillas, now Mata...
To what end?
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no Giggs but also no RVP

no Silva for City either
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:54 AM   #434
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is Shinji still sick?
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is Shinji still sick?
Shinji offers absolutely nothing defensively, so I fully expected Moyes to play someone more responsible defensively against Navas and Zabaleta. Nothing surprising here.

Shocking stuff from United.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:58 AM   #436
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But Ashley Young offers nothing

if this is how Moyes is going to play things than I hope he stays forever
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Young is garbage. It should have been welbeck on the left and hernandez up front
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Vidic must be getting sick of Ferdinand, looks like ol' Rio has completely forgotten how to mark his man and/or attack a cross.

And, characteristically, Rooney whining at Webb before the second half even starts.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:29 AM   #440
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That was hilarious by Valencia.

"Oh, I'm in the box now, time to fall."
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