Calgary Gangster arrested in Vancouver

[Flash Walken]

A Calgary gangster arrested at Vancouver airport last week was recently added to an indictment alleging his involvement in a United Nations gang plot to kill the Bacon brothers, The Vancouver Sun has learned.

Billy Ly was picked up by the Canada Border Services Agency after arriving on a flight from Asia. He is now in jail in Calgary charged with aggravated assault and assault with a weapon for a near-fatal stabbing of a rival gangster in Calgary on April 23.

Calgary Police Staff Sergeant Dave Mills said Friday that he expects the charges to be upgraded to include attempted murder given the severity of the injuries to Nick Chan.

Chan was repeatedly stabbed outside a health food store where he’d been shopping, Mills said.

“Even the doctors thought he wasn’t going to pull through, but somehow he managed to.”

Despite Chan’s close encounter with his attacker, he has not cooperated with police. Great witness accounts from bystanders led police to identify Ly and get charge approval, Mills said.

Ly then left for Asia.

CBSA spokesman Perry Boldt said Friday that “Ly was intercepted at the Vancouver International Airport on June 26.”

“CBSA works closely with our domestic and international law enforcement partners and have access to numerous law enforcement databases and warrants,” he said.

Ly is linked to the FOB Killers gang and has close associations to the United Nations gang in B.C.

He was one of 11 additional names of alleged co-conspirators in the high-profile Bacon murder conspiracy listed on a new indictment sworn March 27, 2013.

An older indictment said Yong Sung John Lee, Dilun Heng, Barzan Tilli-Choli, Karwan Ahmet Saed and Ion Kroitoru conspired with UN gang founder Clay Roueche, Daniel Russell and fugitives Cory Vallee and Conor D’Monte to kill the sibling trio between Jan. 1, 2008 and Feb. 17, 2009.

http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2013/0...n-murder-plot/

These things are not regional. The drug violence in Vancouver is fueling violence across Canada.

[Thor]

Legalize

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Thor

Legalize

Legalize Cocain, Meth, Heroin, Crack, and firearms? The UN gang does make money off of Cannibus, but they also make money off those other drugs, and the other drugs are what really produces the territorial aspects that result in violence.

These are the biggest markets these gangs are involved in. No country in the world has legalized those hard drugs, only decriminilized personal use.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by blankall

Legalize Cocain, Meth, Heroin, Crack?

Yes. Drug prohibition is the single largest funding of criminal empires the world over. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it, and educate the public on its effects.

[troutman]

I remember when Jonathan Bacon was shot in broad daylight in Kelowna.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...iracyplea.html

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by blankall

Legalize Cocain, Meth, Heroin, Crack

Yup.

[puckluck2]

The IS and U.N are spilling into Calgary. I really hope the police can stop them before they become a fixture in Calgary. Or they just do a really good job at killing each other.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Yes. Drug prohibition is the single largest funding of criminal empires the world over. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it, and educate the public on its effects.

Once again, no country in their right mind would legalize a drug like Crystal Meth. Legalizing personal possession is one thing. But you still have to crack down on the suppliers. The societal affects of having a drug like Crystal Meth readily available would be absolutely devastating.

Secondly, even if you did legalize cocaine, how are you going to stop the black market for it? It comes from South America. You cannot produce it locally. There will always be crime involved in the production and distribution side.

[jammies]

Legalize drugs, outlaw bacon. It is the gateway meat.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by blankall

Once again, no country in their right mind would legalize a drug like Crystal Meth. Legalizing personal possession is one thing. But you still have to crack down on the suppliers. The societal affects of having a drug like Crystal Meth readily available would be absolutely devastating.

Secondly, even if you did legalize cocaine, how are you going to stop the black market for it? It comes from South America. You cannot produce it locally. There will always be crime involved in the production and distribution side.

Yeah everyone and their grandma will be running right out to have some sweet sweet meth.

Everyone's a moron I guess.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Yes. Drug prohibition is the single largest funding of criminal empires the world over. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it, and educate the public on its effects.

That's pretty laughable. The effects of making it legal will be far greater than a bunch of gangs shooting up each other. You will still have the same drug addicts, wouldn't you? so what would making it legal achieve?

They can educate the public on its effects without making it legal. The only drug in my opinion which should be totally legal and even sold at 7-11's should be marijuana.

[Ozy_Flame]

Would hate to see Lower Mainland gangs infiltrating Calgary, but now that the FOB / FK are in the mix as evident of Billy Ly and his charges, I guess it's becoming true.

Also, what gave this moron the impression that coming back to Canada would be a good idea?? Maybe he should get deported and he can go chill with his fellow deported outcast Jackie Tran in Vietnam while the rest of Canada doesn't have to deal with another clown.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

That's pretty laughable. The effects of making it legal will be far greater than a bunch of gangs shooting up each other. You will still have the same drug addicts, wouldn't you? so what would making it legal achieve?

Same drug addicts, no gangs?

[Imported_Aussie]

Criminal organizations would get severely weakened by this, but I could see it switching the focus of these organizations to other areas though, such as human trafficking and/or weapons. It could also lead to a burst of violence, as the drug trade becomes more contested, so any action needs a thorough response plan.
As for legalization, some drugs, such as Methamphetamine and Heroin, should not be available wholesale. Decriminalization would be the best step, in small quantities, to take the focus of the justice system off policing small crimes to tackling the gang related violence and the supply. After that, perhaps legalization by form of prescription to a diagnosed addict, to control the current users, whilst also educating the non-users in an honest and scientific manner may help to curb demand, squeezing suppliers.

Marijuana I believe should be controlled in a similar way to tobacco.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Muta

Same drug addicts, no gangs?

Would be great, because then we can treat them as they are, mentally ill addicts, rather than criminals.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Muta

Same drug addicts, no gangs?

That's the very best scenario wouldn't you say? And I think there still would be gangs considering the two biggest gangs in Calgary didn't start off because of drugs. They were killing each other because of a girl and revenge of a previous killing and the cycle kept going on, not because of drugs. It wasn't until after they started dealing drugs in bigger quantities and the killings were still over personal beef not over drug territory.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

That's the very best scenario wouldn't you say? And I think there still would be gangs considering the two biggest gangs in Calgary didn't start off because of drugs. They were killing each other because of a girl and revenge of a previous killing and the cycle kept going on, not because of drugs. It wasn't until after they started dealing drugs in bigger quantities and the killings were still over personal beef not over drug territory.

Actually it started over a stolen jacket, but I digress

[blankall]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Yeah everyone and their grandma will be running right out to have some sweet sweet meth.

Everyone's a moron I guess.

Yup...that's actually what happened in several countries where it was made legal during the 1950s-1970s.

Either way, crystal meth is a drug that can be produced in a basement. The only way to stop the black market would be to make it available at such as low price, that it would be essentially free.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie

Criminal organizations would get severely weakened by this, but I could see it switching the focus of these organizations to other areas though, such as human trafficking and/or weapons. It could also lead to a burst of violence, as the drug trade becomes more contested, so any action needs a thorough response plan.
As for legalization, some drugs, such as Methamphetamine and Heroin, should not be available wholesale. Decriminalization would be the best step, in small quantities, to take the focus of the justice system off policing small crimes to tackling the gang related violence and the supply. After that, perhaps legalization by form of prescription to a diagnosed addict, to control the current users, whilst also educating the non-users in an honest and scientific manner may help to curb demand, squeezing suppliers.

Marijuana I believe should be controlled in a similar way to tobacco.

This.

Treat the users like patients. But when it comes to suppliers of drugs like meth and heroin, you have to continue to treat them like criminals. You have to continue to keep these ultra-addictive and personality changing drugs out of the hands of the public.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by blankall

Yup...that's actually what happened in several countries where it was made legal during the 1950s-1970s.

Either way, crystal meth is a drug that can be produced in a basement. The only way to stop the black market would be to make it available at such as low price, that it would be essentially free.

Wrong. Crystal meth is made in laundromats.