02-02-2024, 09:34 AM
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So assuming that Monahan would have re-signed with Calgary last year for one year, we would potentially have two more first round picks. And without Kadri's $7 million on the books, the ability to take on salary for more draft capital.
But that's a butterfly effect thing I guess. Who knows what the team would have done.
All I ask is that the team try to make a similar move to what Montreal did. Flames have $25M mill of cap space next year and lots of directions they could go. Will be very interesting.
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02-02-2024, 09:34 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Two 1st round picks for Kadri. Smart move.
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02-02-2024, 09:35 AM
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#83
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
Two 1st round picks for Kadri. Smart move.
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Factually incorrect.
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02-02-2024, 09:35 AM
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#84
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
….is it for a 1st?
Brad?!?
#%^*ing Brad!
Good for Mony though. I’d be happy to see that guy win a Cup.
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Thank you wizard
Habs got 2 1st picks for use of Monahan
Robbery of the century
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02-02-2024, 09:35 AM
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#85
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Posted in other thread… apologies.
Can someone detail the strings attached to the first we sent to Montreal?
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02-02-2024, 09:36 AM
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#86
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Originally Posted by Hackey
Two 1st round picks for Kadri. Smart move.
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Monahan was injured at the deadline in the year he was traded. I guess if you thought the Flames should have signed him in the offseason to do this then valid point lol
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02-02-2024, 09:36 AM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Oakland
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The way Treliving ran this team was comparable to how some of my friends ran their budgets. Superficially it looked like they were doing great, but their lifestyle is actually financed through ever increasing debt.
Happy to cheer for the Jets now, takes them from a who cares team to Go Monahan!
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02-02-2024, 09:37 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYC
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There is irony in here somewhere with Gio, Brodie, Monahan, Lindholm, Tkachuk all making the playoffs this year with other teams... yet the best player (2 years ago) Gaudreau will be fighting for a lottery pick again.
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02-02-2024, 09:37 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I've heard that the biggest person pushing to dump Monahan instead of Lucic was Sutter.
And Edwards was all in on getting Kadri with Treliving to prove that Calgary could attract free agents.
So I actually think that two of the big pieces of that outcome are gone in Sutter and Treliving.
The key remaining piece is Edwards.
Trading Toffoli, Zadorov, and Lindholm would indicate they aren't wasting assets anymore.
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And seven freaking seasons of Kadri. If he was dangled I wonder what he would fetch today?
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02-02-2024, 09:37 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
Two 1st round picks for Kadri. Smart move.
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Instead of getting a 1st, they gave up a 1st
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02-02-2024, 09:39 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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My only solace is that it makes the west better, and Edmonton's chance at the Cup worse.
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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02-02-2024, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by keenan87
Good asset management by Montreal.
Treliving was such a horrible GM. Good riddance.
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I think Treliving was mostly a decent GM but desperation made him lose his mind after Johnny and Tkachuk wanted out.
But even then, most people thought the trades were solid in the moment. Maybe not what team rebuild (me) wanted, but as far as keeping the team competitive it looked like he made the best of it. Then everything went wrong.
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Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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02-02-2024, 09:40 AM
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First Line Centre
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Treliving should ask for forgiveness by giving us 2 1sts for Tanev now
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02-02-2024, 09:40 AM
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Originally Posted by bluejays
And seven freaking seasons of Kadri. If he was dangled I wonder what he would fetch today?
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If you packaged a first with him, you might get future considerations.
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02-02-2024, 09:40 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Instead of getting a 1st, they gave up a 1st
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Well, no, not really.
It was a terrible trade at the time, but I don't think this changes much.
Monahan was again hurt last year and would have walked to free agency if he were a Flame. That much is a certainty.
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02-02-2024, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejays
And seven freaking seasons of Kadri. If he was dangled I wonder what he would fetch today?
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Nothing lol. The trade was bad the day it was made. I don't really think this trade makes it much worse
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02-02-2024, 09:41 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Owen15
Posted in other thread… apologies.
Can someone detail the strings attached to the first we sent to Montreal?
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Thanks to IronMaiden who answered my question in the other thread.
God that’s ridiculously complicated. Another reason to hate BT. Lol
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02-02-2024, 09:41 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by codynw
I think Treliving was mostly a decent GM but desperation made him lose his mind after Johnny and Tkachuk wanted out.
But even then, most people thought the trades were solid in the moment. Maybe not what team rebuild (me) wanted, but as far as keeping the team competitive it looked like he made the best of it. Then everything went wrong.
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He already ####ed up way before that my friend
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02-02-2024, 09:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Owen15
Posted in other thread… apologies.
Can someone detail the strings attached to the first we sent to Montreal?
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This is the best explanation
https://thewincolumn.ca/2023/11/14/a...with-diagrams/
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