[Signing] Vegas signs Alex Pietrangelo (7yrs, $8.8 mil AAV, NMC)

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

How many years do you have left? Probably won’t be enough.

I dunno. Based on our COVID numbers it could be any day now.

I get the feeling the new management team will finally make some good moves, they have so far this off-season. It's been a gong show for too long.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

This is literally the only reason I'm still a Panthers fan. I want to be there when they turn the corner.

If it ever actually happens the reward will be worth it

2004 was magical for Flames fans...a lot of it had to do with them being so bad for so long

[Corral]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The reasons why each of us cheer for any team are totally arbitrary.
Who cares

This doesn’t make sense. You are suggesting the reason why I cheer for the flames is arbitrary? Please explain.

[powderjunkie]

We are literally cheering for laundry

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

We are literally cheering for laundry

I mean, I tend to remain fans of players long after their gone. I'm actually cheering for the Flames next year because I like Markstrom and Tanev enough to feel it's worth while to see them be successful.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Corral

This doesn’t make sense. You are suggesting the reason why I cheer for the flames is arbitrary? Please explain.

The fact that you have your own reasons for cheering for the Flames is the very definition of the word "arbitrary."

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[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I find it hard to believe anyone really cares that much for a team that you have never been through tough times with...seems more like a look at me thing

I laugh at people at the dome dressed head to toe in gear from a team that didn't exist a couple years back

I was a Flames fan since they showed up, so that made me a fake fan back then, by this standard.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Unless you live in Vegas I just can’t take anyone over the age of 12 who cheers for Vegas seriously. Maybe that’s wrong of me but I refuse to think otherwise. In my experience these people are always flakes.

I don't understand this at all...I don't mean to single you out specifically but I've seen a few comments like this in these threads.

What are your thoughts about Flames fans in Saskatchewan or Manitoba? What about all of the fans we have, even on these boards, from Europe? With literally no connection to this team except seeing them on TV and liking them? What's wrong with that? That's where a lot of fans come from. Vegas is an exciting team. Some people see them, like what they see and start cheering for them. That's what being a fan is.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

We are literally cheering for laundry

I hate when that comes up

It's not laundry

Its history, community, societal constructs, expectations, experience

For a lot of people its familial bonds

I think people get mad at vegas because they've had it 'easy'

I look at it as, if they win a cup in the next few years, it's not gonna mean anywhere as much to their fans as a cup win would do to fans who've followed for years/decades

[Doctorfever]

I hope the GMs of all the other teams take notice.
Look at the cap situation Vegas is in.

DO NOT bail them out. Put their feet to the fire. It’s the one thing you can do to try and level the playing field after the expansion rules gifted to Vegas.

If I am even sniffing at MAF, it starts with a number one and retained salary. At least.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I mean, I tend to remain fans of players long after their gone. I'm actually cheering for the Flames next year because I like Markstrom and Tanev enough to feel it's worth while to see them be successful.

Blaster86 are you feeling okay?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

We are literally cheering for laundry

Permanent press! Permanent press!

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I hope the GMs of all the other teams take notice.
Look at the cap situation Vegas is in.

DO NOT bail them out. Put their feet to the fire. It’s the one thing you can do to try and level the playing field after the expansion rules gifted to Vegas.

If I am even sniffing at MAF, it starts with a number one and retained salary. At least.

I’m pretty sure teams already told Vegas they wouldn’t bail them out with Fleury. It’s one of the reasons they traded Schmidt instead.

[AC]

2 other pieces of news came out for Vegas:

Lehner is having some "clean-up surgery" on his shoulder, but expected to be ready for training camp.

Lehner even tweeted out the play that apparently injured his shoulder:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1315833291933577216

And this:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1315831139010052096

[the_only_turek_fan]

Help me explain something.

If the cap is 81.5M and you have contracts signed worth 79M and revenues fall so after escrow your actual cap is 76M. What would you do?

[Corral]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The fact that you have your own reasons for cheering for the Flames is the very definition of the word "arbitrary."

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This is incorrect. Even an easy web search will demonstrate that arbitrary means determined by chance and without reason. Thus having a reason to cheer for the flames is the exact opposite of being arbitrary.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Blaster86 are you feeling okay?

Are you okay? Annie are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay, Annie?

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Help me explain something.

If the cap is 81.5M and you have contracts signed worth 79M and revenues fall so after escrow your actual cap is 76M. What would you do?

Pay everyone the equivalent % less. Unless your asking if the cap might drop next year. They agreed to keep it flat.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Help me explain something.

If the cap is 81.5M and you have contracts signed worth 79M and revenues fall so after escrow your actual cap is 76M. What would you do?

Didn't the NHL promise that the cap wouldn't drop for a few seasons? Or am I misremembering?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Help me explain something.

If the cap is 81.5M and you have contracts signed worth 79M and revenues fall so after escrow your actual cap is 76M. What would you do?

I'm not sure what exactly you're asking about.


For next season, escrow is fixed at 20% and will fluctuate over the next few seasons until revenues return to normal and the league is made good for any money that is overpaid to the players.

If a player has a $10 million contract, he'll only get paid $8 million next season. If a player has a $1 million contract, he'll only get paid $800,000. If a player starts the season in the AHL and gets recalled due to an injury, he'll only get paid 80% of his NHL salary while he's called up.

Escrow is only a factor with the actual dollars paid to the players and has no impact on cap calculations. If a player has a $10 million cap hit, he'll still have a $10 million cap hit against the $81.5 million cap.

For the next few seasons, the cap is going to basically be fake placeholder numbers that don't really relate to what the players will actually be getting paid. The cap won't be going down if revenues drop, it just means that escrow will go up to make up the difference between the cap numbers and the real dollars.


I'm not sure if that answers your question or just makes it more confusing.