CP Mafia 2 - Town Square Showdown - Game Over

[ineedanother]

I think we should try to lynch the last Parker member as there is only 1 left, and that will make 1 less night kill. My top suspects for being Parker are, Lego Man, Rathji and Hockeyguy15. If everyone thinks that Barrow is the better choice of action I can list my suspects for them later.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't think strombad is mafia based on what I have read. Something smells rotten here. Baxter should have been dead and he isn't and now saillias comes in to replace kermitology and defends Baxter which is also weird. Combine that with kermitology thanking the post by mazrim where we found out CBL flipped town after he was killed and I smell a couple of mobsters. I was suspicious of kermitology before but I am more convinced then ever he was mob. I don't believe for a second saillias that you rolled town. I think BR is not the doctor but in the off chance he is I am taking the more sure route.

Vote: saillias

You'll notice I didn't cast a vote either. I wanted to get a word in before everyone gets the ball rolling on day 6's shake down.

Can't say much in my own defense, only can say I posted very promptly after receiving the PM from mazrim. And, logically if I rolled mob I would have had to conspire with the mobsters first before barging in here and posting suspects. But, if you want to vote me that's fine. I've been keeping up with the thread as a fan and just wanted to put that possibility out there.

[Baxter Renegade]

Originally Posted by ineedanother

I think we should try to lynch the last Parker member as there is only 1 left, and that will make 1 less night kill. My top suspects for being Parker are, Lego Man, Rathji and Hockeyguy15. If everyone thinks that Barrow is the better choice of action I can list my suspects for them later.

I don't know about Hockeyguy being Parker. He offered up CofR (Dead Parker) as a lynch target during the gong show that was day 5. Mind you, that could be high level deception in an attempt to distance the two remaining Parker members... hmmm

I definitely agree with locating the final Parker member for obvious reasons.

Time to start heavily analyzing Bizaro86, Starseed, CofR.

Rathji has been keeping notes, anything you've found affiliating any of these guys with a player who is still alive?

[saillias]

fwiw, kermitology quitting IS weird. Seems like a ragequit to me. He presumably had sour grapes over Baxter living?

If it helps I'll go back and read his posts tomorrow and see if I still think the same thing. I don't intend to protect him, I'm trying to protect common sense... I think when someone calls themselves the doctor, the best strategy is maybe NOT everyone lynch him.

[DropIt]

Baxter is still alive? wow. I thought the doctor reveal would have been lights out. This was a pretty good flip for us, one more mafioso gone and the doctor (self proclaimed as it were) still alive.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ineedanother

I think we should try to lynch the last Parker member as there is only 1 left, and that will make 1 less night kill. My top suspects for being Parker are, Lego Man, Rathji and Hockeyguy15. If everyone thinks that Barrow is the better choice of action I can list my suspects for them later.

Out of those 3 I would be most comfortable with voting Hockeyguy15 or Lego. I have wrecked my brain reading through this thread, lol. I really don't think Rathji is mob, between gut feeling and his posts I am least suspicious out of that list. Lego is confusing as hell, sometimes I think he is mob and other times I am not so sure. Hockeyguy15 seems like he might be hiding the most so if we want to go that route I am down but I still think saillias is mob.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Interesting that CofR has posted but hasn't voted, ineedanother and disentowner haven't been active here for a bit. He didn't vote last time either.

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

That's what I was implying though.

Again it just seems like CofR is trying to coast along, and by not voting the last 2 times it seems like he is trying to avoid showing a voting pattern.

Originally Posted by CofR

It was discussed a few pages ago about allowing ineedanother to make the vote that brings hammer as he was the only person who can fully be trusted and it will help us avoid a quick hammer... That's why I'm holding back.

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

So you think starseed is mafia then?

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Take a look at CofR's posts, tell me if I am wrong for having doubts about him.

His coasting and non-committal posts seem off to me.

Originally Posted by CofR

I do, but I am wary of making a decision too quickly. As a town we have been really fast to lynch people, and it has not worked for us... I am just trying to be more thorough.

It will be telling to see how starseed flips as there will be tons of evidence based on what we learn. At first that was pushing me towards dropping the hammer and lynching him... But our numbers are still dropping at a pretty alarming rate and I want to be more sure before I make a vote to drop the hammer.

I should have stayed on him more during the starseed lynch, I had him. I am not mafia, I'll go back in the morning and look at the link between the 3 of them, I seem to recall they had a similar suspicion list early on.

[kermitology]

Ghost post: hey guys, the pace of the game has been too slow for me and work is about to go into overdrive, plus I'm out of town starting Tuesday for most of the next month. I just didn't have the time and patience to commit to the game. I spoke to Mazrim about it before CBL slit his own throat in front of you.

[Baxter Renegade]

Originally Posted by saillias

fwiw, kermitology quitting IS weird. Seems like a ragequit to me. He presumably had sour grapes over Baxter living?

If it helps I'll go back and read his posts tomorrow and see if I still think the same thing. I don't intend to protect him, I'm trying to protect common sense... I think when someone calls themselves the doctor, the best strategy is maybe NOT everyone lynch him.

This is what lead me to be sure CBL was mafia. Same with Kermit... Everyone should have been certain I was dead and chased a different lynch target... I wish CBL played that different!

Strombad, Lego and CBL kept their lynch votes for me till the bitter end...

I'm surprised neither mafia killed me... Again, maybe they figured the other mafia would kill me and didn't want to waste a vote? This is likely the case.

Were currently 10-4 for town... We are actually in ok shape. The odds during night are still in favor of killing town from a statistical point of view, and our lynching has been horrible... 1 mafia out of 5 lynchings.

Time to buckle down and dig deep.

[CaptainCrunch]

Lego is suspicious and has been quieting down his act and settling into the weeds. I find it odd that the mafia didn't kill Baxter even though he claims to be the doctor.

I still stand by my reasoning that Lego is dirty.

Vote: Legoman

[Baxter Renegade]

I suspected Lego as well... But after CBL's flip, I don't feel very trusting of my mind... Tomorrow I have some free time and I'm going to sink some of it into looking through old posts.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

The reason I was in favour of following ineedanother into hmmhmmcamo is that we know he is town, so even if he's not 100% right we don't need to worry about his motives. The fact that the voting for hmmhmmcamo has fizzled out and now people have moved on to Active Stick and Transplan99 makes me a bit suspicious. Not that I'm sure Active Stick and Transplant99 are town, but more that I'm suspicious of the motives of those who directed attention away from voting hmmhmmcamo.

At this point I think we're at risk of having a split vote and not lynching anyone, which I think hurts us as we lose out on information from both the voting patterns and the card flip.

I'm keeping my vote for now, and will try and go through the thread again to see if I can figure anything else out.

Originally Posted by starseed

I was going to wait a bit longer to see how this potential deflection was going to play out. I dont see why people arent picking up with the idea of voting as a block with the proven townsperson for at least the first couple rounds where we have little info to go on. If it is all based on flimsy evidence, lets let the known townsperson make the decision.

This is the most logical method to use, at least for rounds 1 and 2.

Originally Posted by CofR

Agree with tranny being a good target for today, it makes sense. He's not being very active, which is suspicious for him. Even if he is a townie, he's not really contributing.

Originally Posted by CofR

Well, I'll throw my vote at hmmhmmcamo

Vote hmmhmmcamo

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yeesh the swings in this game are awesome..lol.

Vote: hmmhmmcamo

So now knowing activeStick was town, I have to say whoever took over for transplant is my vote. Bizaro and starseed push for hmmhmmcamo, CofR comments about transplant but then votes hmmhmmcamo.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Just some early thoughts, people I am more suspicious of right now than starseed
Rathji
Kermitology
CC

You guys have been playing longer at this than me though so this night I will go with the group if you guys want to take out starseed. If I had to guess I am leaning more toward he is scum than town but I could very well be wrong. And if he is scum I think Lego is in big doo doo.

And for good measure, takes over for transplant and defends starseed.

vote: dissentowner

[Completely]

Anyone else extremely uncomfortable with the fact that Baxter is still alive after telling everyone hes the doctor? I know its pure speculation and we cant tell who each other are but it makes me a little uneasy. It's hard after CBL was so adamant that there was something wrong and no one really listened. Then he kills himself and flips town and For Bax not to die from a nightkill and then for Parker to have one left as well. I feel like we should all make a top 3 of who we think is suspicious. That way we have an idea of what direction we should go.

[CaptainCrunch]

Lego - I've explained his suspicious posts and actions multiple times
Baxter - more around the fact that he wasn't night killed.
I'm torn on the third one I need to go back tomorrow night and look at HG15 and Strombad again.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

And for good measure, takes over for transplant and defends starseed.

vote: dissentowner

I did not defend starseed, I had 3 others I was more suspicious of than him but stated I was leaning toward him being mafia. Nice try though.

[dissentowner]

My top 3 are as follows

1. saillias- formerly kermitology. Has looked suspicious to me all game, CBL is killed and flips town and he thanks the post, then quits and leaves saillias to try and survive his mess. saillias first post makes sure he states he was town right away, like he was trying to do damage control.

2. Baxter Renegade: If he really is the doctor then how in the hell did he survive the night? That should be a no brainer kill for the mafia

3. Hockeyguy15: He is scrambling now, trying to put attention elsewhere because we are sniffing him out.

[Rathji]

I am rushing to get out the door, but I am glad my #3 on my list (CoR) turned mafia, but I think it gives us less info than if CBL ended up flipping scum.

My first thought on the day is why did Baxter live? Even if he was scum, the other mafia should have killed him because they didn't know know that. The only explanation is that they thought him being alive would seed more doubt in the town. More on this when I get to a computer, so it might be lunchtime.

Baxter, about CoR , he is one that I didn't have a ton of proof on, or connections, as I didn't do a full review of. My main suspicion of him stemmed from a group of posts a couple days ago where I asked for someone to give me a reason to vote for CoR before I went out. Something triggered him in my head but I can't remember what. I will see if my notes at work contain more info though.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Lego is suspicious and has been quieting down his act and settling into the weeds. I find it odd that the mafia didn't kill Baxter even though he claims to be the doctor.

I still stand by my reasoning that Lego is dirty.

Vote: Legoman

Agreed. I was kind of surprised that the town didn't nail this guy yet, I think he's shot himself in the foot multiple times.

Vote: Legoman

[saillias]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

My top 3 are as follows

1. saillias- formerly kermitology. Has looked suspicious to me all game, CBL is killed and flips town and he thanks the post, then quits and leaves saillias to try and survive his mess. saillias first post makes sure he states he was town right away, like he was trying to do damage control.

2. Baxter Renegade: If he really is the doctor then how in the hell did he survive the night? That should be a no brainer kill for the mafia

3. Hockeyguy15: He is scrambling now, trying to put attention elsewhere because we are sniffing him out.

Hey dissentower,

You voted to lynch him.

You're a replacement too, and your predecessor wasn't exactly winning over hearts and minds here. You've also never really led a charge against an individual. Last game either. You lived until the end, you won. You're a dangerous player because you don't cause enough suspicion for either the mafia to target you or the town to question your motives. Just wondering if perhaps my mentioning of strombad hit the centre of a battleship?