11-29-2019, 10:39 AM
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#161
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Good Lord...the chat on the feed is...I dont even know what to call it.
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11-29-2019, 10:39 AM
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#162
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GeoRock
Everything about this rubs me the wrong way. From what Peters did to how Aliu handled it to the social media cancel culture.
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Aliu did absolutely nothing wrong.
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11-29-2019, 10:40 AM
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#163
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First Line Centre
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I don't know how people are blaming Treliving for taking a few days.
A tweet from a decade ago, spending a few days getting information is more than reasonable.
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11-29-2019, 10:40 AM
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#164
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Geoff Ward will be interim coach.
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11-29-2019, 10:40 AM
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#165
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoRock
Everything about this rubs me the wrong way. From what Peters did to how Aliu handled it to the social media cancel culture.
The world we live in today... I'm sure glad I'm not in a professional position of social influence.
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It does seem like there are different rules for different people
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11-29-2019, 10:40 AM
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#166
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Apart from just using buzz words like cancel culture, can you outline why you think this is actually bad?
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Because we're all human and make mistakes. If this were an off-ice incident that occured in the Flames dressing room, sure you've got a better case, but this was years ago at a totally different job.
Are we not allowed to make mistakes, apologize, and learn from them without having to be publically fired and shamed?
Excommunication is not an effective tool.
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11-29-2019, 10:40 AM
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#167
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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"interim coach" there we go
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11-29-2019, 10:40 AM
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#168
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Lifetime Suspension
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Treliving breaking down a little there. This whole incident hit him hard.
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11-29-2019, 10:40 AM
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#169
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Yeah, Bill Peters can come back from this, and I hope he does so, but it's going to take time and a tonne of growth. If he ever gets another opportunity to coach professional hockey again, it should only happen after he has demonstrated an unequivocal and obvious change in his character.
Sometimes, an apology is just not even close to enough.
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I just want to say it is possible, because there has been plenty of time, that a tonne of growth had happened.
The Flames had to dismiss Peters, I believe that. What he said was reprehensible and certainly racist. I wouldn't even argue if a person was to insist he was a racist at that time.
What bothers me in the new age of public court, is that going forward, he will be labeled as a racist. Period. Which may be true. Or, over time, he's been exposed to different people and places, and has learned his past behaviours/thoughts/feelings were ignorant. It's possible the growth has already happened is my point. Not saying probable, but possible. Doesn't matter though, he's forever a racist. I don't believe that is fair.
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11-29-2019, 10:41 AM
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#170
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoRock
Everything about this rubs me the wrong way. From what Peters did to how Aliu handled it to the social media cancel culture.
The world we live in today... I'm sure glad I'm not in a professional position of social influence.
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Aliu mentioned something ten years later because it was timely and appropriate. I'm only saddened that we couldn't have heard this story in 2009. After the incidents in Windsor, the last thing I'm prepared to question is Akim Aliu's sense of right and wrong.
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11-29-2019, 10:41 AM
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#171
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Rando
Aliu did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Really? Can you play rap music with swear words at work?
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11-29-2019, 10:41 AM
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#172
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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I for one am happy with and for Ward.
The guy has really put his time in gaining experience. I'm excited to see what he can do with the reins.
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11-29-2019, 10:41 AM
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#173
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Flames will turn over the results of their investigation to the league, but they now consider the matter closed.
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11-29-2019, 10:42 AM
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#174
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJones
I don't know how people are blaming Treliving for taking a few days.
A tweet from a decade ago, spending a few days getting information is more than reasonable.
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I give Brad massive kudos, rather than bending to the pitchforks and torches, he followed proper protocol and the saying of "Innocent until Proven Guilty"
Those people who say that it should have happened instantly are just uninformed fools.
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11-29-2019, 10:42 AM
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#175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nachodamus.
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My god Francis.. Can you ask that any less professionally?
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11-29-2019, 10:42 AM
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#176
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
Because we're all human and make mistakes. If this were an off-ice incident that occured in the Flames dressing room, sure you've got a better case, but this was years ago at a totally different job.
Are we not allowed to make mistakes, apologize, and learn from them without having to be publically fired and shamed?
Excommunication is not an effective tool.
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He isn't being excommunicated.
He loses the opportunity to hold a premium job that only 31 other people hold.
That seems reasonable.
His life isn't over
His career as an NHL coach is.
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11-29-2019, 10:42 AM
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#177
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooter
Treliving says Bill Peters gave him a letter of resignation this am. Interesting.
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Posting from your phone?
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The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
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11-29-2019, 10:42 AM
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#178
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Jah Chalgary
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Damn.... I think Brad teared up a bit
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11-29-2019, 10:42 AM
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#179
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Treliving visibly upset and emotional. It's pretty clear this hasn't been easy for anyone. My sympathies to all involved, and good to know this won't drag on much longer.
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11-29-2019, 10:42 AM
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#180
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rando
Treliving breaking down a little there. This whole incident hit him hard.
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It sounds like Peters was his a friend, or close to it. That would be hard to do to someone you care about.
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