04-08-2018, 10:17 AM
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#161
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep South
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Originally Posted by Regorium
I can buy people wanting to work with Connor McDavid. But does anyone really care about the building?
Does it matter for people in real life? Like do you care if your office is brand new or if your office is 20 years old? Does it matter that you work in one of the older skyscrapers in west downtown compared to the Bow building or Brookefield?
Have people made work decisions in their lives based purely on the age of the building?
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Exactly. It's about the people and organization not the building. Fans can't see past the shinny building but coaches certainly can and will.
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04-08-2018, 10:24 AM
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#162
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Franchise Player
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Rangers fire Vigneault
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Some lucky team will hire him, but it won’t be the Flames. I have a horrible feeling that GG will still be the Flames coach.
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I get the same feeling and it’s so depressing, yet so utterly familiar as a fan of this franchise.
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04-08-2018, 10:35 AM
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#163
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Regorium
I can buy people wanting to work with Connor McDavid. But does anyone really care about the building?
Does it matter for people in real life? Like do you care if your office is brand new or if your office is 20 years old? Does it matter that you work in one of the older skyscrapers in west downtown compared to the Bow building or Brookefield?
Have people made work decisions in their lives based purely on the age of the building?
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Yes. The building and the office space you work in makes a huge difference. This is why top companies spend a lot of money on design and planning of their space. Top companies compete for top talent and financial compensation is only one aspect of trying to sell your company to candidates. Often times, companies pay the same salaries, so its the other factors that can make or break attracting top talent. I spend almost as much time at work as I do at home; why wouldnt I want to work in a modern building with modern amenities?
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04-08-2018, 10:44 AM
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#164
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep South
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Originally Posted by taco.vidal
Yes. The building and the office space you work in makes a huge difference. This is why top companies spend a lot of money on design and planning of their space. Top companies compete for top talent and financial compensation is only one aspect of trying to sell your company to candidates. Often times, companies pay the same salaries, so its the other factors that can make or break attracting top talent. I spend almost as much time at work as I do at home; why wouldnt I want to work in a modern building with modern amenities?
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It may be a factor. But if we're talking about a coach making a decision between Calgary or Edmonton, which we are then there is a good deal to consider before you concern yourself with the carpets and drapes. We have an entire thread dedicated to that.
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04-08-2018, 11:10 AM
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#165
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Southside
It's the same 200x85. You completely miss the more important factor being the support and direction from upstairs. Edmonton is a 3 ring circus. Any coach can see that.
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Edmonton is certainly a circus at times, but lets not act like the Flames organization is some shiny model of high standard in the league. The Flames have had issues with execs meddling in hockey ops (ken king), employ a very opinionated Brian Burke and an ownership group that has set the standard of mediocrity throughout.
Like I said before, it isn't the deciding factor. Organizational structure and value plays a much bigger role in any potential coaches decisions, but the arena does play a factor (how large or how small none of us know). Having the opportunity to work with a generational talent in McDavid is the main reason why I see AV going to Edmonton over Calgary, if both opps become available.
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04-08-2018, 11:11 AM
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#166
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I would assume most coaches look to the people directly above them to see whether or not they can work within that structure.
So, yeah....
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04-08-2018, 11:42 AM
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#167
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Timbo
Some lucky team will hire him, but it won’t be the Flames. I have a horrible feeling that GG will still be the Flames coach.
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I dont think I can take another year of this.
This was the least I have cared about the Calgary Flames that I can remember and we signed Jaromir Jagr and had calgaryboy come to town.
I mean....the stars are aligning here and still....
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04-08-2018, 11:50 AM
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#168
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Locke
I dont think I can take another year of this.
This was the least I have cared about the Calgary Flames that I can remember and we signed Jaromir Jagr and had calgaryboy come to town.
I mean....the stars are aligning here and still....
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And Calgary managed to turn the whole Jagr thing into a complete fiasco. such a sad way to see a guy of his calibre and status leave the NHL, and he'll forever linked to the Calgary Flames organization for such.
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04-08-2018, 11:54 AM
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#169
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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If you were to hire a team to go into a franchise and decimate it from the inside, you couldn't have done a better job than this team of coaches this year.
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04-08-2018, 11:54 AM
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#170
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by Locke
I dont think I can take another year of this.
This was the least I have cared about the Calgary Flames that I can remember and we signed Jaromir Jagr and had calgaryboy come to town.
I mean....the stars are aligning here and still....
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Another year of GG will pretty much cement my Flames GAF level to that of the Stampeders - as in IDGAF. I didn't even watch the last 10 games this year, and I'm not tuning in next year to see more of GG's backward passes and Brouwerplays.
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04-08-2018, 01:15 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Tag Bradley you are up.
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04-08-2018, 01:34 PM
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#172
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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When AV signs elsewhere it won’t matter if Tre offered him $10m a season, there’s gonna be a meltdown. Sounds like some people are out for blood and nothing is gonna change that.
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04-08-2018, 01:37 PM
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#173
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyman
If you were to hire a team to go into a franchise and decimate it from the inside, you couldn't have done a better job than this team of coaches this year.
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Lol !!!
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04-08-2018, 01:43 PM
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#174
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Franchise Player
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For the people mentioning that AV likes to play vets, and can be stubborn with his player utilization...
Virtually every coach favours vets (more than fans do). And every fan is going to be unhappy with some player usage because we all have different players that we like and others that we don't.
That is part of being a fan.
There is a HUGE difference between that and the coaching staff completely losing control of the team, and making a mess of the roster, and fans not being able to reconcile anything that is going on.
Also, winning is better than not winning.
We need a coaching change, and AV is an acceptable choice IMO.
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04-08-2018, 01:44 PM
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#175
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
When AV signs elsewhere it won’t matter if Tre offered him $10m a season, there’s gonna be a meltdown. Sounds like some people are out for blood and nothing is gonna change that.
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Just GG blood, and his cohorts. Let us have them and we won’t burn down your village.
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04-08-2018, 01:45 PM
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#176
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
For the people mentioning that AV likes to play vets, and can be stubborn with his player utilization...
Virtually every coach favours vets (more than fans do). And every fan is going to be unhappy with some player usage because we all have different players that we like and others that we don't.
That is part of being a fan.
There is a HUGE difference between that and the coaching staff completely losing control of the team, and making a mess of the roster. And fans not being able to reconcile anything that is going on.
Also, winning is better than not winning.
We need a coaching change, and AV is an acceptable choice IMO.
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...and most people fail to realize this is mostly a veteran team. Lol.
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04-08-2018, 01:45 PM
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#177
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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So if everything is going according to plan, Gulutzan canned tomorrow, Vigneault hired Tuesday.
Do it!
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04-08-2018, 01:53 PM
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#178
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
...and most people fail to realize this is mostly a veteran team. Lol.
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???
Every team has vets. Stajan will be gone. Versteeg probably isn't back. We'll see on Brouwer.
Are you worried about Backlund? Frolik? Giordano?
Brodie and Hamonic are vets. Gaudreau will be a 25 year old vet next year.
I have no idea what your point is.
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04-08-2018, 01:54 PM
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#179
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North of the River, South of the Bluff
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyman
And Calgary managed to turn the whole Jagr thing into a complete fiasco. such a sad way to see a guy of his calibre and status leave the NHL, and he'll forever linked to the Calgary Flames organization for such.
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Jagr has never said a single bad word about his treatment by the Flames. He came to camp not ready and got injured and it snowballed. Flames worked with him to rehabilitate and it didn’t work.
This is from yesterday and it doesn’t sound like a man with a grudge. He is still injured back home.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...turn-1.4610137
I am not happy with GG and the players but lets not make stuff up to support a narrative.
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04-08-2018, 01:57 PM
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#180
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
???
Every team has vets. Stajan will be gone. Versteeg probably isn't back. We'll see on Brouwer.
Are you worried about Backlund? Frolik? Giordano?
Brodie and Hamonic are vets. Gaudreau will be a 25 year old vet next year.
I have no idea what your point is.
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The knock against AV is that he favours vets.
My point is that this team mostly vets now (the core at least)
Therefore how is that a problem?
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