2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[traptor]

I just dont see troad to contention if they re-sign rasmus.




Locked up long term our core will be:
Kadri
Huberdeau
Coronato
Sharangovich

Andersson
Weegar
Bahl (presumably)
Parehk (presumably)



Wolf


And no other A+ prospects in the system and not real avenue to bottom out unless by fluke.


It feels like a very middling group to me.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Here’s a long time rumour now confirmed
In his interview with 960 Coates confirms the Flames had an option to trade Gilmour for Verbeek 1:1 instead of going with the leafs deal

wow I didn’t even know that.

That’s a heck of a thing.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by traptor

I just dont see troad to contention if they re-sign rasmus.




Locked up long term our core will be:
Kadri
Huberdeau
Coronato
Sharangovich

Andersson
Weegar
Bahl (presumably)
Parehk (presumably)



Wolf


And no other A+ prospects in the system and not real avenue to bottom out unless by fluke.


It feels like a very middling group to me.

That’s why they play the games. No point in predicting the next decade based on one signing. Lots of games, picks, trades, signings, etc on the way.

I just don’t understand this defeatist mentality. Everything the Flames do feels like a choice in some people’s eyes between doing the right thing and dooming the franchise for another 30 years. It’s just not the way it actually works.

No harm in letting literally every move play out, for years even, before trying to guess what impact it’s going to have 5-10 years down the line.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hanifin agreed to 7.5 asv deal and backed out its been confirmed by many insiders.

Lindholm was offered 8.7 aav.

They tried to sign Tanev up until his trade.

These are all from Lebrun. So yeah Edwards being the worst is spot on

[dammage79]

I'll be honest. I've loved Rasmus Andersson since before he was drafted and was one of my bingo card hits during his draft year. I've loved him as a Flame ever since. That being said, I don't see the fit signing him back here long term.

Flames have some serious players coming onto the team over the next two or three seasons. There's only soany spots.

Unless they're going to move Pachal and use Weegar on the left there's not a ton of space available moving forward. I'd prefer to utilize his value to make some waves elsewhere on the roster.

We will see I suppose.

[Badgers Nose]

Yeah this place is insufferable.

I come for the insider updates and the few reasonable people that post here.

Sometimes entire pages are "This message is hidden..." posts.

But there isn't a better place to read up on Flames news and breaking stories.

[traptor]

You're right this place is insurrable. There's no discourse allowed. The second you start disagreeing with any of the speculated moves a group of you start harumphing.




I'll focus on the positive moves i want conroy to make.







I'm going to be very happy if Conroy trades Rasmus! I think that's a great move that would help lead us to our ultimate goal.

[traptor]

One of the best things Conroy could do is sell Rasmums plus another vet at this deadline.


Would be really smart management.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Hanifin agreed to 7.5 asv deal and backed out its been confirmed by many insiders.

Lindholm was offered 8.7 aav.

They tried to sign Tanev up until his trade.

These are all from Lebrun. So yeah Edwards being the worst is spot on

This is not true.
The Flames took the deal off the table. Or at minimum it was mutual.

I also have no issue with trying to re-sign Tanev. Dude is awesome.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dammage79

That would have been a great looking trade until Verbeek bolted for the States. Don't think he'd have stayed too long in CGY. But that's a cool what could have been for that flames roster.

True but even if the 1:1 deal ended poorly, at least you don't have all the other parts of the deal that were just as bad, particularly dealing Macoun and Nattress.

The full deal was Leeman, Berube, Petit, Godynuik for Gilmour, Macoun, Nattress and Manderville.

Verbeek for Gimour would have been way better, and if Verbeek didn't want to be here, hopefully could have been flipped for something decent.

[Ped]

Yeah, that trade with Verbeek is a big deal, but as Jiri says, what happens to all the other assets? How does this affect the two franchises going forward?

[dammage79]

I'm still trying to imagine two mutant RW dwarfs reeking havoc. Having Fleury and Verbeek on the same team would give opposition players nightmares back then.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

This is not true.
The Flames took the deal off the table. Or at minimum it was mutual.

I also have no issue with trying to re-sign Tanev. Dude is awesome.

No they didn’t. He was ready to sign in November but we had a losing steak. They had a deal done in January agin he balked. You can go look it up. I provide the links before.

The flames got forced into selling. But that won’t fit your narrative.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Here’s a long time rumour now confirmed
In his interview with 960 Coates confirms the Flames had an option to trade Gilmour for Verbeek 1:1 instead of going with the leafs deal

That would have been a significantly better trade for Calgary yet they still weren't getting decent value for Gilmour in that trade either.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

No they didn’t. He was ready to sign in November but we had a losing steak. They had a deal done in January agin he balked. You can go look it up. I provide the links before.

The flames got forced into selling. But that won’t fit your narrative.

The fact that people are still criticising management for things that never happened is wild.

Get over it already. At this point it they should have signed/kept Lindholm and the rest. At least you guys would have something that actually happened to complain about.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Weak draft or not, any one of Misa, Hagens, Frondell, Martin, Desnoyers, or O'Brien are worth backing up the truck for.

If we backup the truck for any of those players and Rossi is actually available for far less we are crazy. Rossi is already a 60 point center at the NHL level with the possibility to be even better. Half those centers I suspect are unlikely to be 60 point centers in the NHL.

[traptor]

Whatever made them do it, it feels like selling lindholm and the rest was smart moves by Conroy.


I think selling Rasmus would be a continuation of savy moves.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If we backup the truck for any of those players and Rossi is actually available for far less we are crazy. Rossi is already a 60 point center at the NHL level with the possibility to be even better. Half those centers I suspect are unlikely to be 60 point centers in the NHL.

Rossi can easily flake out. I’d rather spend assets on a 1C we can develop who isn’t a hobbit.

But you will cry regardless hating top 5 picks.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If we backup the truck for any of those players and Rossi is actually available for far less we are crazy. Rossi is already a 60 point center at the NHL level with the possibility to be even better. Half those centers I suspect are unlikely to be 60 point centers in the NHL.

I don’t dig into details of much draft stuff, but I did think it was weird seeing Desnoyers so high while guys like Laf, Mercer, Zary, and Bourque out paced him (Laf by a lot, the rest by a bit) and none of those guys have turned into even 60 point guys or bonafide #1s.

[really?]

Originally Posted by traptor

One of the best things Conroy could do is sell Rasmums plus another vet at this deadline.


Would be really smart management.

I would agree, but that’s just my opinion. Opinions are like seeds, some grow into beautiful flowers, but thistles also start as seeds.

Dealing vets at this point depends on returns. If there isn’t a good futures deal on the table there is no point in moving guys just to get them out of here. The drawback is that current guys might block younger players, and waiting to deal with that at camp puts a team under pressure, and likely a disadvantage.

Agents would love to back a team into a corner to have to re-up a client rather than lose them for nothing or get pebbles in return. Conroy knows this and he won’t get caught in that game.