2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Must be a scary world when everything seems “insane.”

Your perspective is interesting, but don’t confuse it with reality. I think it lacks a lot of imagination to just believe that Conroy has lucked himself to where he is, saved only by players’ refusal to sign contracts that were allegedly much higher than the ones they ended up signing.

And hey, again, if you truly believe everyone is insane and not accepting reality and we’re only here because a dumb GM made dumb offers to dumb players that didn’t take the best they could get, well then golly, perhaps we should fire the GM, right?

Your comments are the same extreme in the other direction. To each their own. Facts are that Lindholm would be here for another 7 yrs at about 9MM.

Rasmus is worth more dealt as we need those key RHD minutes for Parekh and maybe Bru in a couple yrs.

3 years from now, are we really ok with Raz making 8MM on the 3rd pairing for another 5-6 yrs? Thats assuming Bru doesnt pass him as well.

[Rhett44]

Guys, nothing with our team has changed.

If it wasnt for Lindholm and Hanifin saving us and saying no to us giving basically a blank cheque, we would have overpaid 2 more old players.

Things will never change with Murray at the helm. I have no doubt we will overpay for Rasmus now.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Thanks Royle. Do you know if they called the meeting yo more talk about where he wants to be traded to (thus extension and bigger return) or to hammer out a deal?

Also, what do you mean explore UFA for Rasmus?

This sounds scary bad for the Flames.

I think it was to confirm where his head is at long term so they can finalize their plan for the draft. They still owe him another year, so they can’t just write him off and ignore the guy.

He wanted to confirm his long term plans and be transparent with Craig as well, so I think both sides know the direction they are going and we’ll find out likely at the draft.

There’s significant interest in Rasmus, so I would bet Craig likely shared some of the team’s interested to gauge his interest as it pertains to an extension as that would maximize his value.
I haven’t been told either way, only that going into the meeting it was very likely he wants to move on.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Guys, nothing with our team has changed.

If it wasnt for Lindholm and Hanifin saving us and saying no to us giving basically a blank cheque, we would have overpaid 2 more old players.

Things will never change with Murray at the helm. I have no doubt we will overpay for Rasmus now.

What a fresh new take from you, one that hasn't been beaten to death.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1753182683184714113

Hmm so I guess Lindholm never saved the Flamss from themselves, but don't let that stop you from spouting that same thing over, and over, and over.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Groot

What a fresh new take from you, one that hasn't been beaten to death.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1753182683184714113

Hmm so I guess Lindholm never saved the Flamss from themselves, but don't let that stop you from spouting that same thing over, and over, and over.

Well he saved them by wanting more $$

The Flames were (by all reports) offering a somewhat competitive offer that would look horrible right now

Look how Boston’s season went having Zad and Lindholm eating that much cap and suppose to be key contributors

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Well he saved them by wanting more $$

The Flames were (by all reports) offering a somewhat competitive offer that would look horrible right now

Look how Boston’s season went having Zad and Lindholm eating that much cap and suppose to be key contributors

So the Flames didnt give him and Hanifin a blank cheque as other users have falsely claimed. Got it.

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Well he saved them by wanting more $$

The Flames were (by all reports) offering a somewhat competitive offer that would look horrible right now

Look how Boston’s season went having Zad and Lindholm eating that much cap and suppose to be key contributors

I agree, Jason. Lindholm and co saved Conroy. I think and want to trust that Conroy has learned from this. I really like Conroy. I just hope his nice guy nature has gotten harder from these lessons. I think he has *fingers crossed*.

[Niemo]

Thanks so much, Royle!

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Niemo

We got lucky that no one took the deals that were on the table. Imagine Lindholm still here at the rumored 9x8 for example. Markstrom would still be here and we wouldn't know what Wolf can be.

We have no clue what was offered in reality
What we do know is that we have signed way too many post apex contracts and haven’t gotten rid of anyone lately

[dammage79]

Would have been nice to keep Hanifin but that's here nor there. But a top LD wouldn't be much of a need if he had stayed.

Lindholm to me was always out of the door once Johnny and Tkachuk left. And his uninspired play reflected that before he got traded to Vancouver. He did us a favor not anchoring a ton of cap to him to stay. No way around it. But again, I believe he was always leaving once other players started leaving.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Your comments are the same extreme in the other direction. To each their own. Facts are that Lindholm would be here for another 7 yrs at about 9MM.

Rasmus is worth more dealt as we need those key RHD minutes for Parekh and maybe Bru in a couple yrs.

3 years from now, are we really ok with Raz making 8MM on the 3rd pairing for another 5-6 yrs? Thats assuming Bru doesnt pass him as well.

Someone who thinks conversation around how to manage an asset has devolved into the “insane” and “extreme” should stop talking about reality and facts.

The “facts” are that Lindholm isn’t here. The “facts” are that he was always willing to stay and the Flames didn’t keep him.

We’ll need those minutes if all of the following come true: Weegar suddenly can’t play on the left, Parekh becomes a 1st or 2nd pairing defenceman. Bruz becomes a 1st or second pairing defenceman. Aside from Weegar suddenly forgetting how to play on the left, what an amazing situation! Let’s hope it happens and, if and when it does, deal from a position of strength. Seems a lot smarter than basing any decision on what might happen 5 years from now. No team operates that way, and we shouldn’t be the first.

But if all of it happens will I still be ok with Ras making 8M? Well, if we’re just going on what might happen, the cap could be as high as 129M, which would make that equivalent to 5.4M in today’s cap.

That’s… fine. Especially when Kadri is off the books and Huberdeau and Weegar are off the year after. Pretty easy actually.

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Well he saved them by wanting more $$

The Flames were (by all reports) offering a somewhat competitive offer that would look horrible right now

Look how Boston’s season went having Zad and Lindholm eating that much cap and suppose to be key contributors

Isn’t Boston what people want? Bottom five team! Woohoo!

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Niemo

I agree, Jason. Lindholm and co saved Conroy. I think and want to trust that Conroy has learned from this. I really like Conroy. I just hope his nice guy nature has gotten harder from these lessons. I think he has *fingers crossed*.

Yep, Lindholm and Hanifin saved us. We should be thanking them.

Alot of people are clearly fine with doing the same thing we always do though. They want to continue to enjoy 1 playoff series win every decade. Because they don't have the patience for a rebuild.

It is what it is.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Yep, Lindholm and Hanifin saved us. We should be thanking them.

Alot of people are clearly fine with doing the same thing we always do though. They want to continue to enjoy 1 playoff series win every decade. Because they don't have the patience for a rebuild.

It is what it is.

No people are not fine with doing the same thing.

The disagreement is more that some people see that the team HAS changed their approach. You don't. That's fine. But at least try to make an effort to understand what others are writing.

Posts like above are just junk.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Yep, Lindholm and Hanifin saved us. We should be thanking them.

Alot of people are clearly fine with doing the same thing we always do though. They want to continue to enjoy 1 playoff series win every decade. Because they don't have the patience for a rebuild.

It is what it is.

Are they? Or do they just have a different perspective on how to build a team than you do?

I’m sure one answer makes you feel smarter, but it doesn’t do much more than that for anyone else.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

We have no clue what was offered in reality
What we do know is that we have signed way too many post apex contracts and haven’t gotten rid of anyone lately

Hold up. I’m typically the guy that defends Treleving as I think he took the shot he could and unfortunately missed, but he’s the guy that signed all the old guys. Which post apex contracts has Conroy signed?

Backlund.

That’s it. And it was for two years. And a good signing.

Weegar? If that’s a post apex deal at that dollar value and term, I’ll take 10 more Weegars.

Coronato? Come on.

You need to step back and see where this team is trending (and think about what a big deal moving Markstrom was last year). Maybe, as some have argued, Conroy tried to re-sign the older guys and didn’t, but the old guys on this roster aren’t on him. Perhaps he could have put more pressure on Kadri to waive his no trade clause and move him, but that’s a big rock the boat move way too early in this competition cycle that would probably significantly hinder his ability to sign future free agents.

It still sounds far more likely that Andersson gets moved than stays anyway.

[dammage79]

Lamenting how a pro sports organization refuses to do something that is not in their genetic make up is such a crazy way to drown , fighting against the current.
You live longer if you just let go and go with the flow.

Flames won't go scorched earth. It's not how they're made .

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Hold up. I’m typically the guy that defends Treleving as I think he took the shot he could and unfortunately missed, but he’s the guy that signed all the old guys. Which post apex contracts has Conroy signed?

Backlund.

That’s it. And it was for two years. And a good signing.

Weegar? If that’s a post apex deal at that dollar value and term, I’ll take 10 more Weegars.

Coronato? Come on.

You need to step back and see where this team is trending (and think about what a big deal moving Markstrom was last year). Maybe, as some have argued, Conroy tried to re-sign the older guys and didn’t, but the old guys on this roster aren’t on him. Perhaps he could have put more pressure on Kadri to waive his no trade clause and move him, but that’s a big rock the boat move way too early in this competition cycle that would probably significantly hinder his ability to sign future free agents.

It still sounds far more likely that Andersson gets moved than stays anyway.

Oh boy

Sorry

Shoulda used green text I suppose

[Jiri Hrdina]

Here’s a long time rumour now confirmed
In his interview with 960 Coates confirms the Flames had an option to trade Gilmour for Verbeek 1:1 instead of going with the leafs deal

[really?]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Are they? Or do they just have a different perspective on how to build a team than you do?

I’m sure one answer makes you feel smarter, but it doesn’t do much more than that for anyone else.

Your question is valid and should cause posters to at least stop and think. It’s fairly myopic to suggest that advocating for signing Andersson can only equate to asking for more of the same. My opinion is that a long term $8m per year with Andersson would immediately become an albatross, but I’m not in the room or on the bench so I can’t say what he really brings to the team, and the extent to which his performance may be impacted by injuries. Maybe extending him is of greater value to the future than any deal, but I would trust current management to make that call.

I’m in the camp that feels like the Flames should take the best offer they get for Andersson, and the best offer should center around picks, but I fully understand that such a deal has a chance to become Iginla deal II. We as fans have the luxury of fading into the forest if that happens, Craig Conroy does not.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Here’s a long time rumour now confirmed
In his interview with 960 Coates confirms the Flames had an option to trade Gilmour for Verbeek 1:1 instead of going with the leafs deal

That would have been a great looking trade until Verbeek bolted for the States. Don't think he'd have stayed too long in CGY. But that's a cool what could have been for that flames roster.