2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Marner should sign here, we are just so nice and I'm sure that will play a part in his decision.

probably picks Vegas, as cutthroat as they get.

The Flames are a charity. We prioritize keeping players happy. Winning and success is secondary.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Toonage

By all accounts the only team the Flames outbid FWIW was the Islanders

Didn’t Columbus make an offer before Gaudreau shocked everyone?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The Flames are a charity. We prioritize keeping players happy. Winning and success is secondary.

I can say, confidently, Murray Edwards is not running a charity.

It’s funny to read these types of posts from fans who have little, if any, skin in the game nor do they have any personal interaction with the players or any direct knowledge of the interpersonal skills that occur within the Flames. Successful organizations, in pro sports or otherwise, prioritize things like living up to your word.

I think you’re pretty far off the mark and demonstrating a fairly high level of naivety. Or maybe this is what you consider your ‘abstract thought’ you like to believe you possess.

[PepsiFree]

Clearly Conroy, despite speaking to Kadri repeatedly throughout the season and having a better idea than anyone in the organization as to what Kadri wants/would be willing to do, should have just asked him to waive the NMC one more time and, to be frank, it’s a humiliating failure on his part that he didn’t.

Seriously. Kick him to the curb and grab any handful of fans to throw in his place. We need the kind of stellar business intuition that leads to bold thinking like “maybe if I just ask again” and “if a boss can get fired so can anyone!” and “this is a business, I have no idea what his contract means!” instead whatever nonsense Conroy is bringing to the table.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I can say, confidently, Murray Edwards is not running a charity.

It’s funny to read these types of posts from fans who have little, if any, skin in the game nor do they have any personal interaction with the players or any direct knowledge of the interpersonal skills that occur within the Flames. Successful organizations, in pro sports or otherwise, prioritize things like living up to your word.

I think you’re pretty far off the mark and demonstrating a fairly high level of naivety. Or maybe this is what you consider your ‘abstract thought’ you like to believe you possess.

Wrong, the Flames are a dirty charity when they’re honouring the contractually protected wishes of a player.

They’re only a gross, self-serving business when they’re not willing to forgo millions of dollars in revenue to appease fans on the internet who want them to tank for five years.

[Rhett44]

The Flames are not an organization who wants to win a cup. Those organizations are ready to make tough decisions when needed.

Look at Florida trading Huberdeau and pissing him off. Do you really think their fan base cares right now? No, because they didn't think they could win with him and made the decision to move him.

Now every player wants to join Florida because they are winning. Nobody cares that they were mean to Huberdeau now. You do what you need to do, if you want to win long term.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Wrong, the Flames are a dirty charity when they’re honouring the contractually protected wishes of a player.

They’re only a gross, self-serving business when they’re not willing to forgo millions of dollars in revenue to appease fans on the internet who want them to tank for five years.

Ah, yes, and by ‘tank’ I assume you mean ‘do it my way’.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

The Flames are not an organization who wants to win a cup. Those organizations are ready to make tough decisions when needed.

Look at Florida trading Huberdeau and pissing him off. Do you really think their fan base cares right now? No, because they didn't think they could win with him and made the decision to move him.

Now every player wants to join Florida because they are winning. Nobody cares that they were mean to Huberdeau now. You do what you need to do, if you want to win long term.

Spoken like a person who has never been in a leadership position.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Spoken like a person who has never been in a leadership position.

There’s different ways owners and management can create a good environment for players. The training facilities and style of travel they provide. How they handle all the off-ice stuff like accommodation, tickets for family, etc. How they treat support staff. The Panthers organization gets top ratings for that stuff.

However, like most top teams they’re ruthless when it comes to player personnel. They didn’t hesitate to move core, life-long Panthers in Huberdeau and Weegar to improve the team. They’re likely going to let mainstay Ekblad walk, just like Tampa let Stamkos go. The same way Vegas hasn’t let sentiment sway them from all kids of heartless moves in their short history. But players still want to play for those franchises because they win.

Maybe small-market, unattractive destinations like the Flames can’t operate the same way. In the absence of great weather or a winning pedigree, we may have to rely on goodwill (and higher financial compensation) to attract and keep players. But being utterly ruthless around personnel is a trait common to top franchises in pro sports.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

We will not win a cup before Kadri retires. If Iggy can be traded, so can Kadri.

To be clear, Iggy wanted to be traded and told the team there was only one team that he would be traded to. I guess Kadri could do the same and we could get a similar return in terms of value. But first he would have to want to be traded.

[Inferno]

I've told this story before but my mom worked with a guy who is from St. Albert and is/was friends with Iggy.

She told me even before the season started that he said one day after having one too many drinks Iggy opened up to him and told him "You know this is my last year in Calgary right? I want to win a Cup". I wasn't shocked and was expecting them to trade him since it was the final year of his contract.

Kadri already has a Cup so while I'm sure he would love to win another stability is probably the higher priority.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Facts as we approach the draft.

98% certainty Andersson is gone.
90% certainty Vladar is gone
85% certainty both Rooney and Hanley don’t return
30% chance Coleman moves via trade
30% chance Pospisil is moved via trade
0% chance Wolf is moved

I’d put RFA offer sheet at about <35%
Big name UFA at <10% chance

100% chance Calgary wants additional 1st round picks in next 3 draft
50% chance they trade up/down at this point - volatile after 3rd pick
98% chance we see Huska extended before season starts
90% chance we see Parekh up with the big club for the whole season
90% chance Klapka with the big club full time

Small sample size of course but this is what I’ve heard.

The last 8 or 9 pages were triggered by this post. Which, as PepsiFree pointed out, ironically doesn't mention Kadri at all.

Andersson is being traded because he's getting pushed out by our younger RD, specifically Parekh. Why sign a 30 year player to an 8 year deal when you have the replacement(s) coming up hard through the system? The Flames seem to have answered that question.

Vladar is gone, because he wants more time, but the team is clearly committed to the younger better player.

Hanley and Rooney likely won't be re-signed, because they feel they can be replaced with younger players in the system.

They are doing what a lot of people want them to do. Just not as dramatically as some of the people on here are looking for.

[5abi]

Lets trade our most entertaining and effective player, you know for ####s and giggles. Oh and he wants to actually be here, what kind of nonsense is that? ship HIM OUT

[getoverit]

Bet Hanley gets resigned! Lol

[FanSince'01]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

The Flames are not an organization who wants to win a cup. Those organizations are ready to make tough decisions when needed.

Look at Florida trading Huberdeau and pissing him off. Do you really think their fan base cares right now? No, because they didn't think they could win with him and made the decision to move him.

Now every player wants to join Florida because they are winning. Nobody cares that they were mean to Huberdeau now. You do what you need to do, if you want to win long term.

Context around the particular situation is super important, though.

Huberdeau was a player they drafted and spent 10 years with them and in the last year of his deal, the team decided that he wasn't the player they felt they needed to build around, especially in the playoffs, and moved on.

Yes there were hurt feelings where Huby felt he was blindsided and yeah, you could argue it was a 'ruthless' move in an attempt to better the team (that absolutely worked out), but that situation is different than Kadri.

Kadri is a guy we actively recruited to be here, gave a NMC to, and has by all accounts done everything we've asked of him to live up to his contract (which IIRC many though was an overpay at the time) and more.

He's also someone who seriously wants to be here - to the point that they uprooted everything and moved family out here. And he's only been here 3 years and still has a no-move for one more season.

Forcing him to waive his NTC this year when it moves to a modified NTC next offseason just so you can maybe, maybe have a better chance at getting McKenna is not just ruthless business, it's bad business.

The situations just aren't comparable.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by 5abi

Lets trade our most entertaining and effective player, you know for ####s and giggles. Oh and he wants to actually be here, what kind of nonsense is that? ship HIM OUT

Does ####s and giggles play Center ? How old is he ?

I personally was hoping for a 1st and a good prospect - but this giggles sounds intriguing

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by getoverit

Bet Hanley gets resigned! Lol

Re-signed. Christ that bugs me.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Toonage

By all accounts the only team the Flames outbid FWIW was the Islanders

Poor argument. No one had the space. We had to get rid of Monahan to fit him in.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

First off...if they're willing to do that with your wife's boss...chances are that this person is a lot easier to replace than a guy whos one of the top 50 centers the most important position in the best league in the world.

Regarding the quoted part...isn't this the knock on the Flames and why they're a middle team? Trying to sell tickets to fill the area and get 3 home playoff games? Rather than try and win, they try and make enough money to cover coats with some profit? They operate like a business and not some rich guys hobby.

I'd say the act of keeping Kadri is more concerned with filling the arena and getting the 3 home playoff games than it is pursuing a Stanley Cup. What is the value of keeping a soon-to-be 35-year-old player who, as you've suggested, is top 50 at his position, on a team that is nowhere near meaningfully competing in the West?

Trading Kadri isn't about replacing him on next year's team. The return equivalent may never amount to Kadri, but the upside is two-fold: 1) You get a return that will have actual value when the team is relevant again, 2) You dramatically improve your odds of securing a top 5 pick in a loaded draft.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by 5abi

Lets trade our most entertaining and effective player, you know for ####s and giggles. Oh and he wants to actually be here, what kind of nonsense is that? ship HIM OUT

People want to trade him because his value on the ice is "wasted" on the current roster because we're not going to be seriously competitive before his contract is up. His trade value, on the other hand, could allow us to add future value to help the team get to a place where we are seriously competitive sooner.
You can disagree about the approach to team building (tear it down to the studs vs try to remain competitive while adding where you can) but pretending that there aren't valid reasons for wanting to trade him is silly.