2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Some ridiculous takes lmao. Trade half the roster. The team played its ass off to even get to 96 points. It’s easy to see a 20 point drop off. Wolf doesn’t need to regress. Kadri and Coleman regressing and a new unproven backup is enough to see 5-7 more losses in regulation and not making overtime.

Most teams are unable to Replicate the style we played yearly.

Most of the rumours seem bunk as well. Ppl just link us to players because we have cap and we looked for a center. He got Frost.

I mean AG was being facetious with the ten step trades; if you couldn’t see that with the wolf/coronato suggestions in amongst the other 8 then I don’t think even green text would have helped ya lol.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I mean AG was being facetious with the ten step trades; if you couldn’t see that with the wolf/coronato suggestions in amongst the other 8 then I don’t think even green text would have helped ya lol.

The same ridiculous takes have been brought up many times. Trade Wolf.

Good thing Nashville and Boston traded their starters so they could fall down the standings.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

So Rasmus at 50% off is worth a 2nd round pick and a soon to be 27 year old 5/6 dman? That is an awful trade, why would the Flames need to add a 1st round pick? Why would they want Hague?

Hague is almost as good as Rasmus.

The 1st in 27 unprotected as a better shot of being a top end 1st if they get Marner. Rasmus is a UFA wanting $8-9 Mil and Eichel could go from $10 mil to $14 mil or more. If they sign Rasmus, the cap hit goes from $2.5 mil to $8 Mil or more. Stone is older, AP is older, Karlsson is older, Hertl is older, McNabb is older. They have no picks or prospects and add Marner at $14 mil, they will hit a wall at some point. The value would be 2026 1st being a late 1st and 2027 being a lottery 1st.

[Psytic]

Hotest of hot takes again but I still wonder what the Flames would look like if they could move Wolf to the Blue Jackets for one of these top end centers they have in the pipe. Move Coleman and Andersson at the deadline as well. They would still have a good supporting cast, its just rolling over for some younger talent. The team is bottom 10 in goals per game, penalty kill, shots per game and middle of the pack in goals allowed, even with Wolf. Is that really a base to build on when you have no 1C? Its worse than the 2015 roster. Everything comes crashing down with any kind of Wolf injury. The team is really putting all their eggs in one basket building around a goalie.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Because it won't be the same roster opening day. Nor will it be the same as the end of last year.

Conny did little leading into the draft making changes or upgrades to the roster. iMO, it was pretty much Mantha and promoting a bunch of kids.

I suspect the Defense overall will improve even with Andersson being traded.

They'll score more than last year too. Theres no way they replicate that paltry 31st in the league goals for .

And it doesn't sound like the plan is to stand pat this year. Sounds like they're going to make some improvements.

I don’t see how the defense gets better by trading Andersson and while they might score more than last year they will still be a bottom ten team offensively. Conroy thankfully said he is going to stay out of the UFA market and I don’t really see any players on the trade market that cement this team as a playoff team. Rossi is probably the best center available and even if the Flames can swing him I don’t think he is a #1C on a contender. Gambling on Pettersson is the kind of swing they’d need to take to try and lock a playoff spot.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Hotest of hot takes again but I still wonder what the Flames would look like if they could move Wolf to the Blue Jackets for one of these top end centers they have in the pipe. Move Coleman and Andersson at the deadline as well. They would still have a good supporting cast, its just rolling over for some younger talent. The team is bottom 10 in goals per game, penalty kill, shots per game and middle of the pack in goals allowed, even with Wolf. Is that really a base to build on when you have no 1C? Its worse than the 2015 roster. Everything comes crashing down with any kind of Wolf injury. The team is really putting all their eggs in one basket building around a goalie.

No to Wolf to Columbus.

If Wolf is moved anywhere (with a .1% chance he does), I would hope it would just be a Wolf and 32nd OA for Askarov and 2nd OA kind of move. We’re better off keeping him though.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

No to Wolf to Columbus.

If Wolf is moved anywhere (with a .1% chance he does), I would hope it would just be a Wolf and 32nd OA for Askarov and 2nd OA kind of move. We’re better off keeping him though.

Wolf won’t have the value needed to actually make trading him worthwhile imo. It’d have to be for an age appropriate #1C and that’s not happening.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

If we moved Wolf...even if the moves all worked out and we got that young 1C (and there's a risk it they wouldn't), the organization would then just be running around hoping to find a way to sure up the goaltending to compete. We are just swapping problems if we move Wolf, why not keep the elite asset you have?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

If we moved Wolf...even if the moves all worked out and we got that young 1C (and there's a risk it they wouldn't), the organization would then just be running around hoping to find a way to sure up the goaltending to compete. We are just swapping problems if we move Wolf, why not keep the elite asset you have?

It would’ve been nice to see how he fared in a the NHL playoffs.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Hotest of hot takes again but I still wonder what the Flames would look like if they could move Wolf to the Blue Jackets for one of these top end centers they have in the pipe. Move Coleman and Andersson at the deadline as well. They would still have a good supporting cast, its just rolling over for some younger talent. The team is bottom 10 in goals per game, penalty kill, shots per game and middle of the pack in goals allowed, even with Wolf. Is that really a base to build on when you have no 1C? Its worse than the 2015 roster. Everything comes crashing down with any kind of Wolf injury. The team is really putting all their eggs in one basket building around a goalie.

Why won’t sone posters face reality that this team will not tank?? Why in the world would we trade one of the three hardest positions to fill a star goaltender?

This team is not going to be worse next year its not happening short if massive amount if critical injuries. This team didnt miss the playoffs because St. Louis went on a hot streak it failed because of the massive gap at center between kadri and frost and backs.

Do something to address the mid pair on defence after trading Andersson.
Add a center that looks anything like a top line center this is a 100+ point team.

Scoronato should improve slightly.
Zary hopefull stays injury free.
Frost and farabee cant score less than they did i still think conny going to get them maybe set them up for failure due to expectations.
Sharkbait injury screwed year.

Parekh should make the defence more mobile especially if conny can get someone in the middle pair that can skate.
Even if backs slides he is already playing at bottom six numbers wont make a difference. Kadri shows no real signs of slowing down but obviously possible.

Add a center shore up the defence this team makes the playoffs.

Oh and it isnt barkov thats in the finals its barkov snd the panthers a damned good team.

I espouse for a center more than most but wont delude myself that the team will tank for top five picks

[Lewis_D]

The thought of trading Wolfie is crazy talk to me.

If there's any GM in the history of the org I would have trust in building around a goaltender it would be Conroy - a guy who during 90% of his career in Calgary played alongside a HOF goalie in Kipper on a team that could never build around that core and get over the line. I'd rather trade 1st round picks and prospects to acquire that #1C over losing Wolf.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

If we moved Wolf...even if the moves all worked out and we got that young 1C (and there's a risk it they wouldn't), the organization would then just be running around hoping to find a way to sure up the goaltending to compete. We are just swapping problems if we move Wolf, why not keep the elite asset you have?

I think because it allows them to sink enough to get better picks and get a blue chip C. Wolf is just a band aid on a dam full of holes. If he gets injured or something happens, the teams literally screwed because he wont allow them to get the elite pieces they need. Edwards is happy being a wild card team year in year out. They would never do it anyway but I'm curious if they sink enough in the McKenna draft, get a blue chip C from the Jackets and get some quality prospects for Coleman and Rasmus and everything comes up Milhouse its an interesting scenario.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Psytic

I think because it allows them to sink enough to get better picks and get a blue chip C. Wolf is just a band aid on a dam full of holes. If he gets injured or something happens, the teams literally screwed because he wont allow them to get the elite pieces they need. Edwards is happy being a wild card team year in year out. They would never do it anyway but I'm curious if they sink enough in the McKenna draft, get a blue chip C from the Jackets and get some quality prospects for Coleman and Rasmus and everything comes up Milhouse its an interesting scenario.

No it isnt. It goes against everything the team has said and done.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Fan69

No it isnt. It goes against everything the team has said and done.

Yes im aware. Im not under any illusion that they would do it. Im interested in how different scenarios would play out.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I really don’t get why people are so confident that the team won’t fade next year when they watched a team with arguably more talent make the playoffs and then end up with a 6th overall pick the following year.

This.

The difference between a 6th OV pick and 16th OV pick in the NHL isn't very much, year to year fluctuation can easily cover that gap.

Now you generally need to be REALLY bad to get that top 3 pick, like San Jose, Chicago, etc level bad.

But really in a normal season pick 4 - pick 16 are pretty interchangeable due to the level of parity in the NHL. Luck, goaltending, injuries, etc can easily have you go from a wild card spot to a top 5 pick the next season (looking at you Nashville).

Even just this season Boston was in a playoff spot at the 4 nations break and ended up with the 7th OV pick.

Flames could make the playoffs next year, but they could just as easily pick top 10.

[ForeverFlameFan]

After seeing the Isles and Utah move up 10 spots, no top 3 pick is safe. The McKenna lottery could very well be won by a team in 6th/7th place.

[Rhett44]

There is no way you trade Wolf. He's a young goalie who has the potential to be elite.

Coleman, Backlund, Kadri on the other hand are all old and will decline fast. Trade them while they still have good value. And trade Andersson because he is not worth the contract he will want.

[Royle9]

Facts as we approach the draft.

98% certainty Andersson is gone.
90% certainty Vladar is gone
85% certainty both Rooney and Hanley don’t return
30% chance Coleman moves via trade
30% chance Pospisil is moved via trade
0% chance Wolf is moved

I’d put RFA offer sheet at about <35%
Big name UFA at <10% chance

100% chance Calgary wants additional 1st round picks in next 3 draft
50% chance they trade up/down at this point - volatile after 3rd pick
98% chance we see Huska extended before season starts
90% chance we see Parekh up with the big club for the whole season
90% chance Klapka with the big club full time

Small sample size of course but this is what I’ve heard.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

The thought of trading Wolfie is crazy talk to me.

If there's any GM in the history of the org I would have trust in building around a goaltender it would be Conroy - a guy who during 90% of his career in Calgary played alongside a HOF goalie in Kipper on a team that could never build around that core and get over the line. I'd rather trade 1st round picks and prospects to acquire that #1C over losing Wolf.

That’s exactly why Conroy is going to stay patient. He’s been around Sutter/Feaster/Treliving and seen what the ramifications are sending out picks when the team isn’t ready. He knows we need that elite #1C. We had our hintz and Aho types.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Hague is almost as good as Rasmus.

The 1st in 27 unprotected as a better shot of being a top end 1st if they get Marner. Rasmus is a UFA wanting $8-9 Mil and Eichel could go from $10 mil to $14 mil or more. If they sign Rasmus, the cap hit goes from $2.5 mil to $8 Mil or more. Stone is older, AP is older, Karlsson is older, Hertl is older, McNabb is older. They have no picks or prospects and add Marner at $14 mil, they will hit a wall at some point. The value would be 2026 1st being a late 1st and 2027 being a lottery 1st.

If Hague is almost as good as Rasmus he will probably cost us 7-8 million a year. That seems like a lot of money.

Vegas also will not have a much greater chance of being a lottery team in 2027. A hypothetical team with Marner, Eichel, Stone, Hertl, Karlsson, Barbashev and Theordore, Hanifin and AP on the backend is not a lottery team.