2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread - Page 826 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

howard_the_duck · 06-10-2025, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Knut

Kadri wants to stay in Canada, moved his extended family here, wants to be a part of the solution, is taking on a leadership/mentorship role and has stated this is his intention. Trading him would be causing a reputational hit amongst players. Is that worth a third liner and a late first ? What does it tell the next player wanting to sign a reasonable 7-8 year deal?

My wife's boss just moved here from Toronto. Her company is downsizing, and her boss is a likely candidate to be terminated among others.

These types of moves are unpleasant and cause a stir, but they happen in business and that's what the Flames are running.

Might be a reputational hit, but I think you can mitigate that damage with communication and including him in the process.

Burning Beard · 06-10-2025, 01:55 PM

Kadri is also the number one centre on a team that has putrid centre depth currently. Combine this with the fact he wants to be here, has a full NMC, moved his family here and plays hard and is a good role model and it's not a giant shock that management can see the value in keeping him.

Aarongavey · 06-10-2025, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You know what will keep players ? Winning.

I’m so sick and tired of the team trying to cut corners and try to fast track something that takes time. We have plenty of vets and mentors. The team is too old at the top anyways. Relying on the core 30 plus won’t win ####.

What are the corners they are cutting? Are there any examples of Craig cutting corners?

ResAlien · 06-10-2025, 02:00 PM

For a franchise that seems to have guy opt out, is on most NTC lists (as most all canadian teams are), or has had stars choose to move on it's kinda funny to see some fans vociferously demanding a legit top 6 and best centre on the team guy who not only is adamant he wants to be here but moved his whole family here and has had it reported from multiple places doesn't want to go to get shipped out. That grass must always be greener eh?

Macho0978 · 06-10-2025, 02:02 PM

Tkachuk and Gaudreau made moves that hurt this franchise but were best for them. Flames need to do the same, they will trade him before his contract is up and I bet he is gone in the next 2 years. Nothing wrong with approaching him early.

Paulie Walnuts · 06-10-2025, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

What are the corners they are cutting? Are there any examples of Craig cutting corners?

It’s Edwards mo. Conroy do far has held steady. Hopefully he is allowed to see it through before he gets the orders from upstairs to move picks and prospects.

Enoch Root · 06-10-2025, 02:03 PM

Player signed here by choice as a UFA, is outperforming his contract, and states repeatedly that he wants to stay here.

"TRADE HIM RIGHT EFFING NOW!"

Macho0978 · 06-10-2025, 02:05 PM

Marner should sign here, we are just so nice and I'm sure that will play a part in his decision.

probably picks Vegas, as cutthroat as they get.

Macho0978 · 06-10-2025, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Player signed here by choice as a UFA, is outperforming his contract, and states repeatedly that he wants to stay here.

"TRADE HIM RIGHT EFFING NOW!"

We will not win a cup before Kadri retires. If Iggy can be traded, so can Kadri.

Enoch Root · 06-10-2025, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Macho0978

We will not win a cup before Kadri retires. If Iggy can be traded, so can Kadri.

And he may yet be traded at some point. In fact, I would bet on it.

But that doesn't justify the outrage, and claims that the Flames are mis-managing things, simply because he wasn't traded yesterday.

Macho0978 · 06-10-2025, 02:08 PM

Best part is I'm pretty sure the Flames had to outbid teams to get him as Calgary was not his 1st choice. This isn't a Ference scenario where he took a discount and Sutter traded after saying he wouldn't.

Macho0978 · 06-10-2025, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

And he may yet be traded at some point. In fact, I would bet on it.

But that doesn't justify the outrage, and claims that the Flames are mis-managing things, simply because he wasn't traded yesterday.

If the rumor is true of that return, it should have at least deserved a check in on if he wants to move.

Enoch Root · 06-10-2025, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Macho0978

Best part is I'm pretty sure the Flames had to outbid teams to get him as Calgary was not his 1st choice. This isn't a Ference scenario where he took a discount and Sutter traded after saying he wouldn't.

Based on what?

Yes, he wanted to stay in Colorado - most players prefer to stay where they are as opposed to move. Beyond that, can you supply a list of his preferences?

Toonage · 06-10-2025, 02:11 PM

By all accounts the only team the Flames outbid FWIW was the Islanders

Jiggy · 06-10-2025, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It’s Edwards mo. Conroy do far has held steady. Hopefully he is allowed to see it through before he gets the orders from upstairs to move picks and prospects.

Is Edwards the one telling Tre to move out picks and prospects in Toronto? Maybe it was the GM and not the owner?

Enoch Root · 06-10-2025, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Macho0978

If the rumor is true of that return, it should have at least deserved a check in on if he wants to move.

You understand Conroy is at the rink every day, right? What do you think the chances are that he has never spoken to Kadri about it? (hint: zero)

Yes, I know Royle9 said they didn't bring the trade to him, but the most likely reason for that is Conroy was already 100% certain of the answer. (Also, Royle9's comment is not proof that Conroy didn't, it is simply passing on - and re-stating with different words - 2nd hand information).

Enoch Root · 06-10-2025, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Toonage

By all accounts the only team the Flames outbid FWIW was the Islanders

And just because the Flames outbid them, does not mean he preferred the Islanders (seriously - no one prefers the Islanders)

Sylvanfan · 06-10-2025, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

These types of moves are unpleasant and cause a stir, but they happen in business and that's what the Flames are running.

First off...if they're willing to do that with your wife's boss...chances are that this person is a lot easier to replace than a guy whos one of the top 50 centers the most important position in the best league in the world.

Regarding the quoted part...isn't this the knock on the Flames and why they're a middle team? Trying to sell tickets to fill the area and get 3 home playoff games? Rather than try and win, they try and make enough money to cover coats with some profit? They operate like a business and not some rich guys hobby.

Paulie Walnuts · 06-10-2025, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggy

Is Edwards the one telling Tre to move out picks and prospects in Toronto? Maybe it was the GM and not the owner?

No but they probably told him to accelerate things on the back of a 1 off playoff appearance. Same marching orders to Sutter.

TOfan · 06-10-2025, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhett44

Being so loyal to aging players is the exact reason we never win anything. Sometimes you have to do what is best for the team, not always be the nice guy.

If you get offered a boat load of futures for an aging asset, you do it. I can obviously understand if Kadri was on the Avs or Panthers or some contender that they keep him and his winning attitude at all costs. But we are far from being anywhere close to a contender. We should we building towards the future.

Guys, here it is! Rhett has it all figured out.