[GT] Alberta Votes 2023.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Muta

What's their position on Smith's tenure in the party? Would love it if the moderates in the party give her the slip, but not holding my breath.

He’s loyal and touts the party line. He won’t speak ill of his leader. Maybe with a couple of beers.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

It IS possible to be a centrist/leftie and vote UCP. I did it. I am pretty liberal in my views and lifestyle/relationships.

Not this election. I believe this about as much as I am not racist but... or I am not racist because i have black friend. No leftist voted for the UCP this time around.

Centre-right could have voted either way on this.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

It IS possible to be a centrist/leftie and vote UCP. I did it. I am pretty liberal in my views and lifestyle/relationships.

I just think the UCP is better economically for our Province and my Municipality. Our MLA, who lives in my actual constituency, is a better representative than the NDP option.

It is possible to be pragmatic when it comes to a voting decision.

All politicians are kind of the worst, just pick the ones that you think will do the best job for you locally and represent your communities needs and values, regardless of their party, is my mindset.

Everything else is just message board/social media outrage and fodder!

That's fair.

I also see it as these days it's just a pick your poison type of decision. We're rarely presented with appealing alternatives any more and there would be categorical wins & losses with either result. Hopefully the UCP can follow through in the one area they appear to be good for.

In the end I'm on team Alberta. I hope we can prosper, but also do so tastefully (while putting the clowns with questionable/outdated views in their place).

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Muta

Yeah, dieHARDflameZ isn't working. He's busy finding that Trudeau quote that doesn't exist.

Keep begging like a good little boy. The obsession is feeding the fire. You are going to lose sleep over this aren’t you?

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

I don’t think I have ever got as much entertainment out of this forum as I have the past 18 hours.

This is epic.

April 18, 2015, was fun.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

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I agree with everything you said. Especially the last line. I would go a step further and say we need more transparency as to why some people vote the way they do. Some reasons might be ok, but most are not and we need to shed light on that. Otherwise, how do we educate people so they make better voting decisions?
People should only be taking certain issues into account when voting or else we get rampant bigotry. Those issues are obvious - the ones not rooted in bigotry, transphobia, climate denial, and anti-vax rhetoric.

What?

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I only have one thing to contribute and it is totally anecdotal. I once had lunch with the CEO of Calgary oil company who grew up in Ontario in wealthy social circles. He told a story of going to dinners with the Trudeaus and he remembered vividly that Pierre Trudeau would lambaste Westerners and talk about how much he hated Alberta in private conversation.

This of course is no reflection on Justin Trudeau as he is his own man and it would be unfair to draw any direct conclusions from that. It is however, also plausible that he is following in his father's footsteps and many of his formative years and ideas about Canada came from his family.

Does that CEO also have a brother who is the CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world.

[Matata]

Has anyone born in quebec ever liked alberta? Seems like a tall order right off the hop.

[ynwa03]

Originally Posted by zamler

What?

We need to understand what compells people to vote for a party that doesn’t have their interest in mind. You can’t take action or educate if you don’t understand the root cause.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Matata

Has anyone born in quebec ever liked alberta? Seems like a tall order right off the hop.

Well this thread has officially jumped the shark

[Muta]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Keep begging like a good little boy. The obsession is feeding the fire. You are going to lose sleep over this aren’t you?

What's really funny is how this is making you look on CP.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Muta

Possibly, and wouldn't surprise me either. But your story is anecdotal, and you mentioned it as much. I'm just interested in seeing the actual quote where Trudeau says he hates Alberta. Anytime now, I'm sure dieHARDflameZ will share it.

Anecdotal, and double hearsay. I might have been one of those times when he came out to the Stampede and the crowd kept giving him the finger.

But:

https://www.nationalobserver.com/201...lberta-liberal

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Muta

What's really funny is how this is making you look on CP.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

How this is making me look to the NDP fan forum of CP. Like I give a $&@%.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Well this thread has officially jumped the shark

Do I know you?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Matata

Do I know you?

It’s possible. I know lots of people.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

How this is making me look to the NDP fan forum of CP. Like I give a $&@%.

You totally do give a ####, lol. That's why you're still here.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

My daughter is a teacher in a rural public school district. This election likely spells the end of her teaching career. She loves teaching and loves kids, but the crap from above has already been too much to take, and it’s going to get worse. She has two degrees, one in eduction and one in environmental science, so she other options, including teaching federal inmates, which pays better, has a better pension and believe it or not, less bureaucratic bs than public education in this province. Pity. A young teacher with two degrees, a passion for teaching and a desire to teach in a rural setting will be a loss to the kids.

This is exactly what the UCP wants. The more educated a populace is, the less likely they are to vote conservative. Ignorance is the lifeblood of the UCP

[CroFlames]

It surprises me that traditional conservatives like die hard flamez are so vehemently defending their choice to vote UCP. These UCP are simply NOT the traditional brand of Alberta or Canadian conservatism. Smith is anti-truth and anti-science and borderline anti-democratic. They are nothing like the Jim Prentice's of old.

I would have thought most conservatives who voted UCP this time held their nose while doing so, not beat their chest proudly on the internet that they voted for them.

It vexes me.

Spoiler!

I would have loved to have voted for a moderate conservative party with sound fiscal policy and common sense social policy. That just doesn't exist here anymore.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Matata

Do I know you?

What the #### did you just ####ing say about me, you little #####? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the #### out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ####ing words. You think you can get away with saying that #### to me over the Internet? Think again, ####er. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're ####ing dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little ####. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ####ing tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will #### fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're ####ing dead, kiddo.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Matata

Has anyone born in quebec ever liked alberta? Seems like a tall order right off the hop.

Most people from Quebec barely think about Alberta at all. On the other hand, lots of Albertans have a seething hatred of Quebec and its people.