2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[FlamesAddiction]

Watch him sign with the Panthers.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Would Nemec, Mercer, Silayev, 1st 2026 for Hughes make sense for both teams?

Heard them talking on the Fan that Rutherford made comments about Quinn wanting to go to NJ to play with his brothers.

Originally Posted by traptor

It's alot of assets but it would send the Canucks into a rebuild. But if hughes demands out what choice do they have.

They could try to target hischer but I doubt the devils entertain that.
I dont think Bratt cuts it,but maybe Bratt++

Theyll never "win" a prime Q Hughes trade, especially because if he demands out it's probably only to the one team

It would be ROUGH for Vancouver to lose their entire core except Petterson lmao.

I think the Canucks would have to dig in and make it a Hischier or bust trade if the Devils want to collect the whole set. With J Hughes and Mercer they can probably lose Hischier. Maybe they can go a step further and make it Hughes + Suter for Hischier + Nemec.

If the Devils do not go for it then the Canucks counter offer should be a Petterson package for the 2 NJD Hughes.

Difficult situation as neither team will want spare parts for their star(s).

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I think the Canucks would have to dig in and make it a Hischier or bust trade if the Devils want to collect the whole set. With J Hughes and Mercer they can probably lose Hischier. Maybe they can go a step further and make it Hughes + Suter for Hischier + Nemec.

If the Devils do not go for it then the Canucks counter offer should be a Petterson package for the 2 NJD Hughes.

Difficult situation as neither team will want spare parts for their star(s).

I was thinking...

Hischier + Nemec + ???

for

Hughes + Lekkerimaki

[Ped]

Maybe if NJ keep spinning their wheels, all three of them demand a trade to New York.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I was just thinking the other day what our Johnny-Mony-Tkachuk core could have done with Vasilevski in net. Ah well.

How amazing would a line of Tkachuk - Bennett- Wilson have been? Wilson backing up Tkachuk's shenanigans (and having many shenanigans of his own) would have given the league fits.

F-ing Feaster.

In this alternate timeline, I imagine Tom Wilson not being quite as big of a piece of crap as he ended up being in Washington.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I think the Canucks would have to dig in and make it a Hischier or bust trade if the Devils want to collect the whole set. With J Hughes and Mercer they can probably lose Hischier. Maybe they can go a step further and make it Hughes + Suter for Hischier + Nemec.

If the Devils do not go for it then the Canucks counter offer should be a Petterson package for the 2 NJD Hughes.

Difficult situation as neither team will want spare parts for their star(s).

And if its bust? NJ can wait it out, Vancouver cannot. Sure they can trade him elsewhere as a rental. But as long as Hughes wants to end up with his brothers, NJ holds the leverage. They can lose Hischier, but likely don't have to.

NJ would have no interest in moving the brothers for Petterson.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Ped

Isn't the compensatory pick the same pick but in the second round?

You are all right. It is the same pick in the 2nd.

[SuperMatt18]

Oops wrong thread.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I think the Canucks would have to dig in and make it a Hischier or bust trade if the Devils want to collect the whole set. With J Hughes and Mercer they can probably lose Hischier. Maybe they can go a step further and make it Hughes + Suter for Hischier + Nemec.

If the Devils do not go for it then the Canucks counter offer should be a Petterson package for the 2 NJD Hughes.

Difficult situation as neither team will want spare parts for their star(s).

I am not sure the Canucks should trade for an older player than Hughes if they are moving off of him. I don’t think there is enough of a supporting cast to build a contender in the near future. Canucks would be wise to avoid the Flames path with the Tkachuk trade and accept a rebuild in a year where the first pick is incredibly highly touted. The flames were given the rebuild path in 2022 and chose to double down on the supporting cast and assume the new stars they brought in would carry the team. Despite Kadri and Weegar being full marks the fall of Huberdeau and many of the supporting players like Lindholm and Markstrom peaking in 2022 the flames are in this weird half rebuild half compete position right now.

Canucks likely join that path since their owner is similar as ours in being vehemently opposed to tanking. Maybe you are right and they chase a piece like Hischier instead of long term rebuilding pieces.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I am not sure the Canucks should trade for an older player than Hughes if they are moving off of him. I don’t think there is enough of a supporting cast to build a contender in the near future.

I would not want Hischier if I was the Canucks would not fit the right age and I think that if the Devils want to advance in the playoffs they would need Hischier.

If I was the Canucks I would make the following moves.

Trade with Devils
Out : Hughes
In : Silayev, Nemec, Mercer, 2026 first round pick, 2025 second round pick

Trade with Sabres
Out : Petersson
In : Byram, Rosen, Pinto

Trade with Jackets
Out : Demko
In : Sillinger

Then hire David Carle as head coach and do a quick turnaround in players and culture. Completely flush this last year down.

[CliffFletcher]

The Canucks are not going to get a king’s ransom for Hughes. They have zero leverage. There wouldn’t be a bidding war because everyone knows he’ll wind up NJ anyway. So something like Nemec or Silayev (not both) + Mercer + 2nd. But they’d also have to move out cap, so a deal would get complicated. I could see them moving on from Hamilton (hard to find the ice time for Hughes + Hughes + Hamilton on the back end).

No chance the Devils deal Hischier - it would open a huge hole in the roster.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by shutout

I would not want Hischier if I was the Canucks would not fit the right age and I think that if the Devils want to advance in the playoffs they would need Hischier.

If I was the Canucks I would make the following moves.

Trade with Devils
Out : Hughes
In : Silayev, Nemec, Mercer, 2026 first round pick, 2025 second round pick

Trade with Sabres
Out : Petersson
In : Byram, Rosen, Pinto

Trade with Jackets
Out : Demko
In : Sillinger

Then hire David Carle as head coach and do a quick turnaround in players and culture. Completely flush this last year down.

Why would the Devils ever do that trade? Two years of Quinn Hughes is probably not worth that price when you think you are the front runner to get him in a couple years anyway.

Pinto does not play on the Sabres. Not sure there is much of a market for a 11.6 million dollar player coming off a 45 point season. Suspect the market for him is less than the market for Cozens was. More likely that the Sabres would do Norris and a 3rd for Pettersson and a 2026 1st.

Demko at most could get something like a 2nd round pick. One year left of a goalie who missed almost the entire season before with injuries is not worth a 21 year old former 12th overall pick.

All those trades look like some sort of Canucks fantasy scenario.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Canucks are not going to get a king’s ransom for Hughes. They have zero leverage. There wouldn’t be a bidding war because everyone knows he’ll wind up NJ anyway. So something like Nemec or Silayev (not both) + Mercer + 2nd. But they’d also have to move out cap, so a deal would get complicated. I could see them moving on from Hamilton (hard to find the ice time for Hughes + Hughes + Hamilton on the back end).

No chance the Devils deal Hischier - it would open a huge hole in the roster.

That is a good point. The NHL is full of trades where NHL stars get traded for nothing because there are rumours where they want to play on specific teams. It is like that time Hanifin was traded to the Bruins so he could go home and spend the rest of his career winning in Boston.

This is doubly true when you have such a desirable place that players love to flock to like New Jersey. Why would these Hughes kids want to go home to a team in Florida when they can be in New Jersey??

The Canucks should probably trade for a 3rd rounder and feel lucky that they could even get that.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by shutout

I would not want Hischier if I was the Canucks would not fit the right age and I think that if the Devils want to advance in the playoffs they would need Hischier.

If I was the Canucks I would make the following moves.

Trade with Devils
Out : Hughes
In : Silayev, Nemec, Mercer, 2026 first round pick, 2025 second round pick

This seems rich. Nemec hasn't reached his potential, but he's a recent #2 overall. Adding a #10 overall, a 1st and a 2nd seems like a lot.

I could see Nemec being moved though. If the Devils pick up Hughes, they'll have Quinn Hughes, Luke Hughes, and Dougie Hamilton on defence, with Nemec likely not maturing for a few years.

So I could see a Hughes/Nemec trade, just not one with Vancouver getting that much back.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

I'm genuinely surprised a guy who dressed like this on his draft day doesn't want to be in Florida.

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

This has NYR written all over it.

Originally Posted by Buff

He does. That pic screams of Miami Heat. He wants to sign with the Panthers.

That belt buckle screams Texas to me.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by blankall

This seems rich. Nemec hasn't reached his potential, but he's a recent #2 overall. Adding a #10 overall, a 1st and a 2nd seems like a lot.

I could see Nemec being moved though. If the Devils pick up Hughes, they'll have Quinn Hughes, Luke Hughes, and Dougie Hamilton on defence, with Nemec likely not maturing for a few years.

So I could see a Hughes/Nemec trade, just not one with Vancouver getting that much back.

IDK, folks said the same about CAR trading Rant.

I think Cliff's deal with Hamilton included is probably pretty close.

We might not have to wait long.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

IDK, folks said the same about CAR trading Rant.

I think Cliff's deal with Hamilton included is probably pretty close.

We might not have to wait long.

I don’t think Cliff was saying Hamilton would be included. He could, if the Canucks wanted a Tkachuk like deal but his proposal of Nemec/Silayev + Mercer + a pick (2nd) seems reasonable.

I think he was saying Hamilton gets moved in a separate trade. I don’t really agree that the Canucks don’t have much leverage, they do. Rutherford is pretty shrewd. Do the Devils want to strike now and get Quinn at 25, or wait until he’s 27? A lot can happen in two years and it would probably be best for the Devils to make that deal now, if the Canucks are willing. The Canucks don’t have to do anything for the short-mid term. So, the Devils will need to consider that. Also need to consider what the potential distraction would be, for years, of players constantly having this cloud over them of ‘who’s getting traded for Quinn?’ If it is as inevitable as that, just get on with it. Probably best for both sides. The Canucks do have leverage and the Devils will have to pay up, to a certain extent.

I’ve heard this thought being discussed on various podcasts but it’s not that dissimilar from the Tkachuck trade. At the time rumours were the Blurs offering Tarasenko, Scandella and a first (I believe), and the Canes had something around Necas. Florida came in and kicked the door down. They got aggressive and made the deal. That trade was good a good one. It was just the Huberdeau extension that was the misstep for the Flames.

[activeStick]

Vancouver media also used the Tkachuk deal as the comparable for a Hughes trade with the caveat that Hughes is the better player, so the return would need to be better. They're thinking a top 6 forward like Huberdeau, a top 4 defenceman like Weegar, a 1st, and a better prospect than Schwindt.

If I'm the Devils, I just wait until Hughes is available for free though.

[Ped]

Except Quinn didn't say he wanted to go to the Devils. He said he wanted to play with his brothers. That doesn't have to be in New Jersey, and if New Jersey doesn't step up as a contender, maybe they all engineer their way out.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Wolven

This is doubly true when you have such a desirable place that players love to flock to like New Jersey. Why would these Hughes kids want to go home to a team in Florida when they can be in New Jerse.

The chance of al 3 ending up in Florida is nil due to cap and the fact that the younger Highers are under control for many years.

If they want to play together, its NJ or bust.

And NJ is less than 30 minutes from NY. It is not undesirable.