2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Came here to catch up on all the Jankowski talk. Leaving dissatisfied.

I was just thinking the other day what our Johnny-Mony-Tkachuk core could have done with Vasilevski in net. Ah well.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Came here to catch up on all the Jankowski talk. Leaving dissatisfied.

Fun fact: Janko scored 7 goals in a 9 game span in March..

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by FBI

Fun fact: Janko scored 7 goals in a 9 game span in March..

Seven of nine, you say?

[Toonage]

Funny moment on the broadcast the other night. They mentioned Janko's goal scoring streak but followed it up with a rather callous "and its been all downhill from there."

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Funny moment on the broadcast the other night. They mentioned Janko's goal scoring streak but followed it up with a rather callous "and its been all downhill from there."

He's such an odd player. For some of the shifts you see the combination of size, skating and skill that made him a compelling prospect. And you wonder "how does this not translate into something more meaningful'. And then he's invisible for entire periods.

I have to think it comes down to an inability to think the game at the speed required.

But when he's on, he looks like he should be a top 6 player. It just doesn't happen enough of the time.

I maintain it was still not a bad pick, because you are always looking for big, skilled centers who can skate. They over-hyped him, but the rationale behind the original pick was perfectly sound.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He's such an odd player. For some of the shifts you see the combination of size, skating and skill that made him a compelling prospect. And you wonder "how does this not translate into something more meaningful'. And then he's invisible for entire periods.

I have to think it comes down to an inability to think the game at the speed required.

But when he's on, he looks like he should be a top 6 player. It just doesn't happen enough of the time.

I maintain it was still not a bad pick, because you are always looking for big, skilled centers who can skate. They over-hyped him, but the rationale behind the original pick was perfectly sound.

That and players taken in the last third of the first round that play 500 games (he's not there yet) are never bad picks in retrospect.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by FBI

Fun fact: Janko scored 7 goals in a 9 game span in March..

On 11 shots.



I'm not advanced stats guy but I don't think that's sustainable. Since then, in 10 games, he also has 11 shots, but only 1 goal.

[YyjFlames]

On the big ticket free agents (Marner, Bennett, Ekblad, Boeser etc), the negotiating climate has to change with the US economy contracting, as the salary cap growth projections is very much tied to US economic projections. I suspect agents will still push for big money longer term deals, citing the past cap projections, but teams, particularly smaller market teams, will probably be more hesitant about them with the economic data.

Escrow protects teams a little bit, but if they lock-in contracts based on longer term cap growth, teams will find themselves in a bind in the next couple years.

Ultimately, it's probably in Calgary's interest to keep cap flexibility as if Trump keeps sewering their economy with tariffs, cap space is going to lead to opportunities again in the next couple years--or at least keep them out of trouble while they build internally.

To me, this should really push them out of the market for Marner/Bennett/Ekblad and simply go short term value hunting.

This uncertainty in my mind should also add value to a guy like Andersson on a one-year, good value deal as the trading team will have the one year to see what happens before locking him up longer term.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

On the big ticket free agents (Marner, Bennett, Ekblad, Boeser etc), the negotiating climate has to change with the US economy contracting, as the salary cap growth projections is very much tied to US economic projections. I suspect agents will still push for big money longer term deals, citing the past cap projections, but teams, particularly smaller market teams, will probably be more hesitant about them with the economic data

I haven't seen anything that indicates this. If you're implying that a recessive economy will lower NHL revenue projections then possibly, but unless they start to see league revenue decline the cap projections should still move forward as current revenues support the projected cap space and its only increasing at slower rate due to the yearly escalator amount in the CBA.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Groot

I haven't seen anything that indicates this. If you're implying that a recessive economy will lower NHL revenue projections then possibly, but unless they start to see league revenue decline the cap projections should still move forward as current revenues support the projected cap space and its only increasing at slower rate due to the yearly escalator amount in the CBA.

Yes, revenue projections are based on tickets, TV deals, ad revenue, merchandise sales, which all hinge on the health of the economy. The NHL projected higher revenues back in January by looking at past, current and future growth models, which all used the pre-tariff economy.

Bettman acknowledges that tariffs might lead to challenges in this article (although the reporter's spin was on Canadian team, the effect is broader): https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/618...a-tariffs-nhl/

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Yes, revenue projections are based on tickets, TV deals, ad revenue, merchandise sales, which all hinge on the health of the economy. The NHL projected higher revenues back in January by looking at past, current and future growth models, which all used the pre-tariff economy.

Bettman acknowledges that tariffs might lead to challenges in this article (although the reporter's spin was on Canadian team, the effect is broader): https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/618...a-tariffs-nhl/

After confirming that 25 percent of the league’s revenue comes from the seven franchises in Canada, Bettman said any impact on the Canadian economy will affect the rest of the league, regardless of where teams reside.

Going a little OT here, but Bettman and the league should bear this in mind while they continue to allow NMC and NTC rules that act as barriers for the most of the league's breadbasket to bring in the most marketable and revenue driving players. A few Stanley Cups and more playoff presence in Canada in the past 30 years probably sees that 25% number get even higher. Allowing a system that prevents many of the best players from playing in Canada is just bad business.

The players sure love that Canadian money that ensures higher salaries, but then act like playing there is beneath them.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Going a little OT here, but Bettman and the league should bear this in mind while they continue to allow NMC and NTC rules that act as barriers for the most of the league's breadbasket to bring in the most marketable and revenue driving players. A few Stanley Cups and more playoff presence in Canada in the past 30 years probably sees that 25% number get even higher. Allowing a system that prevents many of the best players from playing in Canada is just bad business.

The players sure love that Canadian money that ensures higher salaries, but then act like playing there is beneath them.

I doubt that players will want to budge on giving up where they are going to play and live. Why would they?

Especially when the majority of teams benefit from it.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I doubt that players will want to budge on giving up where they are going to play and live. Why would they?

Especially when the majority of teams benefit from it.

Probably not, but it was stupid for the NHL to let it get to that point anyway. No other professional league allows it to the extent the NHL has. The genie is probably out of the bottle now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1917565150258770379

Steve claps back at Larkin

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

https://twitter.com/user/status/1917565150258770379

Steve claps back at Larkin

He’s right.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

He’s right.

Yeah, Larkin walked right into that. Probably wishes he didn't blurt that out.

[Dan403]

If the Flames do trade Ras before this year’s Draft, would you want draft picks for 2025 or 2026?

[Dude Where's Makar?]

Originally Posted by Dan403

If the Flames do trade Ras before this year’s Draft, would you want draft picks for 2025 or 2026?

For me it depends on where the 1st in 2025 lands.

If its a team like Detroit or Montreal at 13,16,17, than I prefer this year. If it's one of the contenders in the mid to high twenties I prefer 2026.

I really see Columbus as a realistic destination. He and his wife have good friends with the Monahan's and Gaudreau's family, up-and-coming team with lots of talent, and quiet market. Columbus also has two picks this draft 11 and 21 from Minnesota. Lots of prospects and possibly younger players like Sillinger.

[Fan69]

Had a look at who has what for draft capital and who also is looking to make trades.

San jose. Multiple firsts including top three, multiple seconds, multiple thirds. I think they are set and maybe borderline on expending assets to improve his year.
Don’t think we have what they want.

Chicago. Multiple firsts including top three, multiple seconds. Defence seems to be a sore spot with multiple picks a deal could be had. Both these teams would be looking for now players. Coleman i think has very little value, pospisil maybe?

Nashville has multiple firsts including top three, multiple seconds, multiple thirds.
Does anyone including nashville know what they are going to do? Have the assets to make a deal, may also stand pat.

Philly. Three firsts, four seconds but are they retooling, competing, rebuilding? Not sure but have assets to deal.

Boston wont be trading picks may look to acquire.
Penguins. Probably looking to acquire picks.

Seattle has two seconds probably not dealing.

Columbus. Have their own picks probably one if the most motivated teams to make changes. Again not sure we have what they want.

Anaheim. Have their picks and two thirds may also be motivated to improve. Might be interested in a steady defender??
New nork, both, and Seattle, dont think will be moving picks.

Detroit have their own picks including 12, plus two thirds. Could absolutely use a good defender. Hard to say if its in the yzerplan.

Montreal has two first, second two thirds. Have plenty of draft capital. Not sure about fit.

Utah. Hard to say what they are doing.

La. What they are doing may depend on the next couple of days.

Van. No deals. Winnipeg, washington, edmonton. Dont see any deals.
Colorado. First and second are gone.

When it comes to a return on andersson i am hoping that chicago with their pile of picks are looking.
Nashville? Unlikely but do have a pile if assets to do one.

Obviously teams also have 2026 picks but i was thinking draft day deal.


Hard to say where Andersson fits. Coleman think has very little trade value( would love to be wrong) no one else is moving. Going to be an interesting off season.

[Vinny01]

Would Nemec, Mercer, Silayev, 1st 2026 for Hughes make sense for both teams?

Heard them talking on the Fan that Rutherford made comments about Quinn wanting to go to NJ to play with his brothers.