2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Would Nemec, Mercer, Silayev, 1st 2026 for Hughes make sense for both teams?

Heard them talking on the Fan that Rutherford made comments about Quinn wanting to go to NJ to play with his brothers.

I don’t think there’s a trade where Vancouver wins with NJD but I’d say your value is pretty darn close for arguably the 2nd best Dman in the league.

Vancouvers issue is that Hughes has complete control and will only go to NJ.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Would Nemec, Mercer, Silayev, 1st 2026 for Hughes make sense for both teams?

Heard them talking on the Fan that Rutherford made comments about Quinn wanting to go to NJ to play with his brothers.

It's alot of assets but it would send the Canucks into a rebuild. But if hughes demands out what choice do they have.


They could try to target hischer but I doubt the devils entertain that.
I dont think Bratt cuts it,but maybe Bratt++

Theyll never "win" a prime Q Hughes trade, especially because if he demands out it's probably only to the one team



It would be ROUGH for Vancouver to lose their entire core except Petterson lmao.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I don’t think there’s a trade where Vancouver wins with NJD but I’d say your value is pretty darn close for arguably the 2nd best Dman in the league.

Vancouvers issue is that Hughes has complete control and will only go to NJ.

It is interesting that NJ is likely the desired destination and they happen to have several pieces a team like Vancouver would want.

Could that ownership group be sold on a full rebuild one year after winning the division and getting to game 7 of the second round?

Trade Hughes and Pettersson to start over? Kind of makes sense

[Jiri Hrdina]

The question is how much is NJ going to give up when they know they can just sign him as a UFA in 2 years.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The question is how much is NJ going to give up when they know they can just sign him as a UFA in 2 years.

I would think they rather capitalize on having all 3 Hughes brothers in their prime at the best cap hits they will ever be.

After missing the playoffs last year to one of the lowest teams to qualify this year and a quick 5 game exit there is likely interest in NJ to try and win asap

[Jiri Hrdina]

Sure but that's still why if I was Vancouver, and I believe he's leaving in 2 years, you trade him now to the highest bidder and give NJ a chance to beat the best offer. At this stage, 2 years of him is still great value to other teams, but as that window shrinks the leverage shifts to NJD.

[Monahammer]

Yes, all teams and their management should remove sentimentality from player decisions.

Jiri, curious why you believe this is a good take for the Canucks but don't seem to support similar tactics for flames management?

If this were a flames player we would be talking about convincing him over the next two years or something.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yes, all teams and their management should remove sentimentality from player decisions.

Jiri, curious why you believe this is a good take for the Canucks but don't seem to support similar tactics for flames management?

This is a completely different level of player here and a completely different situations where it is well known that he is likely to join his brothers in NJD. Different player and different situation.

But I would have been fine if the Flames had traded Andersson last season, this summer, this season. You make the trade when you get the value.

Originally Posted by Monahammer

If this were a flames player we would be talking about convincing him over the next two years or something.

No. That's not something I've advocated for.

I think you are mis-representing once again my previous stances.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Would Nemec, Mercer, Silayev, 1st 2026 for Hughes make sense for both teams?

Heard them talking on the Fan that Rutherford made comments about Quinn wanting to go to NJ to play with his brothers.

That does seem like as fair a deal as you could get when trading one of the top two defencemen in the entire league. A trade like that would be a great start to a rebuild. Obviously New Jersey is getting the best player in the deal so you would think the cost would be high. Only problem is that Hughes has a full NTC so he could dictate where he goes. If it’s only New Jersey that he is willing to be traded to, it could diminish the return.

Overall, a trade like that would be smart in the long run for Vancouver to do right now. It’s potentially 2 young top four defencemen, a top six forward and a first round pick. On top of that, it sets Vancouver up to likely be in the bottom 5 of the league next season and have a shot at McKenna. Obviously it’s mostly magic beans but if it’s clear that Hughes wants to leave, they should maximize his return and doing it early should do that.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yes, all teams and their management should remove sentimentality from player decisions.

Jiri, curious why you believe this is a good take for the Canucks but don't seem to support similar tactics for flames management?

If this were a flames player we would be talking about convincing him over the next two years or something.

If the Flames had Hughes of course most fans would want to keep him. That’s not really a gotcha. However, the Canucks imploded and if he wants out either way then should trade him. I would be surprised if they don’t give it one more kick at the can next year though.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by stemit14

That does seem like as fair a deal as you could get when trading one of the top two defencemen in the entire league. A trade like that would be a great start to a rebuild. Obviously New Jersey is getting the best player in the deal so you would think the cost would be high. Only problem is that Hughes has a full NTC so he could dictate where he goes. If it’s only New Jersey that he is willing to be traded to, it could diminish the return.

Overall, a trade like that would be smart in the long run for Vancouver to do right now. It’s potentially 2 young top four defencemen, a top six forward and a first round pick. On top of that, it sets Vancouver up to likely be in the bottom 5 of the league next season and have a shot at McKenna. Obviously it’s mostly magic beans but if it’s clear that Hughes wants to leave, they should maximize his return and doing it early should do that.

There are a lot of similarities to the Tkachuk deal... sure Hughes could demand he gets traded to only New Jersey, but if he's not a little flexible, Vancouver will probably just hold onto him and he'll have to continue to play on a pour team, potentially diminishing his stock... and if the environment really is as negative and bad as it sounds, two years in a place you really don't want to be would suck.

And if New Jersey plays it like he's a guarantee and doesn't offer Vancouver enough value, Vancouver will just hold onto him, and will over time have a better chance to get Hughes to accept a trade elsewhere for a fair value -- to a team that might resign him and NJ might lose out.

I personally think if Hughes really wants to get traded, Vancouver will get a list of 3-5 teams from him and go to work--like the Flames did with Tkachuk.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1918343570202784184

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1918343570202784184

I'm genuinely surprised a guy who dressed like this on his draft day doesn't want to be in Florida.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

I'm genuinely surprised a guy who dressed like this on his draft day doesn't want to be in Florida.

This has NYR written all over it.

[Samonadreau]

Definitely an interesting team to pass up on.

[Ped]

Yeah, you would think Tampa would need cheap depth and there would be a golden opportunity to make the team.

[Robbob]

So because he is a first rounder, would that mean that the teams that holds his rights in 2026 gets the 31st compensation pick, or is that only the Lightning if he stays?

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

I'm genuinely surprised a guy who dressed like this on his draft day doesn't want to be in Florida.

He does. That pic screams of Miami Heat. He wants to sign with the Panthers.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Robbob

So because he is a first rounder, would that mean that the teams that holds his rights in 2026 gets the 31st compensation pick, or is that only the Lightning if he stays?

Wouldn’t it be the 33rd pick? 31st is the second last pick in the first round now that there are 32 teams

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Robbob

So because he is a first rounder, would that mean that the teams that holds his rights in 2026 gets the 31st compensation pick, or is that only the Lightning if he stays?

Isn't the compensatory pick the same pick but in the second round?