Why shouldn't Ruzicka be in your top six? He's looked like a Getzlaf/Wheeler-lite in terms of controlling the puck with his heavy play, and the only thing wrong with his production is that the sample size is small.
Here are the top 96 5v5 producers at forward who have logged 350+ minutes the last two seasons:
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The top ninety six 5v5 producers at forward represent first line production rates in a 32 team league. So far Ruzicka's production does not indicate he "shouldn't be in your top six". And Ruzicka largely played with fourth liners over that sample, only 95-ish minutes come from his time with Toffoli and Lindholm.
Side note, it's kind of cool the Flames drafted five of the guys on that list (Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Ruzicka, Bennett, Mangiapane)
He's had two iffy games in a row. Will be interesting to see how long the leash is now.
We've seen Dube and Coleman demoted to the fourth line, so I'm guessing he needs a good weekend or he slides.
If you took the time to actually read my post, I said that it was a "pretty evenly played game," which is NOT the same thing as dead-even. Most of the time, there is a better team performance in every NHL game—even those that are very, very close. This was a game that the Flames were in from wire to wire: they played well enough to win, and did not get badly outplayed. It was "pretty even," which is not perfectly even (duh), but is also not a one-sided domination.
Of course, this is how nuance works. If you are interested in carrying on meaningful conversations with other human beings it would be useful for you to learn how to grasp it.
Paulie Walnuts just got virtually suplexed. He was given every opportunity not to look like an idiot, couldn't help himself.
Edit: And I see he doubled down. Imagine explaining something to him in real time where he doesn't have the benefit of thinking about it for a while.
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I always thought Mangiapane was the example of a player that the Flames should have sold high. I don't think he's as bad as he's looked this season but I also don't think he's as good as last years stats. He's in the middle which is okay but not a $5.8 million player and pretty redundant with guys like Coleman and Dube. The lack of elite talent on offense is really showing up this season especially with Huberdeau playing with Backlund.
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As bad as Markstrom has been this season I don't view him as the biggest disappointment for the Flames. That honor goes to Mangiapane. The guy has been less that useless out there and has done nothing to positively affect outcomes of games. The guy should strap some blades to his knees because he spends more time on them than he does on his feet. He's just gone absolutely retrograde and is back to the player he was three seasons ago. If Treliving is looking to make a multi-player deal and has to give someone up, Mangiapane might be the best player to cut loose.
I always thought Mangiapane was the example of a player that the Flames should have sold high. I don't think he's as bad as he's looked this season but I also don't think he's as good as last years stats. He's in the middle which is okay but not a $5.8 million player and pretty redundant with guys like Coleman and Dube. The lack of elite talent on offense is really showing up this season especially with Huberdeau playing with Backlund.
Nah ...
Players with very good underlying metrics and top 75 forward production per 60 are pretty likely to get back to that level.
I don't think he's a 35 goal scorer for sure. That might be a one off, but he's a pretty steady producer and should continue.
His points / 60 coming into this year was very consistent.
18-19 1.78
19-20 2.02
20-21 2.15
21-22 2.24
That's straight line.
He'll find it.
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As bad as Markstrom has been this season I don't view him as the biggest disappointment for the Flames. That honor goes to Mangiapane. The guy has been less that useless out there and has done nothing to positively affect outcomes of games. The guy should strap some blades to his knees because he spends more time on them than he does on his feet. He's just gone absolutely retrograde and is back to the player he was three seasons ago. If Treliving is looking to make a multi-player deal and has to give someone up, Mangiapane might be the best player to cut loose.
Three years ago? He has been nothing but a 2.0 points/60 player for three straight seasons.
And with that production he was still knocked off his skates at least once a shift.
I am not a fan of how they are playing, they look very slow out there and I think that's mainly due to them over thinking it. Every time our D makes a pass, they take an extra second to evaluate, when forwards make passes, they take extra second to find their linemates, nobody "feels" where their linemates will be, the game is played too slowly compared to last year.
I also hate the whole strategy of dump and chase -> cycle -> get puck to D -> weak point shot -> try to get the puck and cycle again -> Pass to D etc. They have barely any high danger chances and rely on the luck of a rebound instead of making plays. Most of the forwards have absolutely no creativity in the offensive zone.
They are clearly trying, and I like how they keep possession in the zone, but they need to be more creative. Every team knows exactly what the Flames will be doing, and the Flames players are afraid of making mistakes. They need to be more relaxed out there.
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I am not a fan of how they are playing, they look very slow out there and I think that's mainly due to them over thinking it. Every time our D makes a pass, they take an extra second to evaluate, when forwards make passes, they take extra second to find their linemates, nobody "feels" where their linemates will be, the game is played too slowly compared to last year.
I also hate the whole strategy of dump and chase -> cycle -> get puck to D -> weak point shot -> try to get the puck and cycle again -> Pass to D etc. They have barely any high danger chances and rely on the luck of a rebound instead of making plays. Most of the forwards have absolutely no creativity in the offensive zone.
They are clearly trying, and I like how they keep possession in the zone, but they need to be more creative. Every team knows exactly what the Flames will be doing, and the Flames players are afraid of making mistakes. They need to be more relaxed out there.
I think that they are still getting to know where to be I relation to each other after all the new changes. You can see them communicating with each other after every shift and it's taking time to gel with all the new players.
I believe Sutter mentioned something about it taking 30-35 games in his estimation for everyone to figure out playing together so hopefully that creativity continues to grow as guys know where to be. Until then the shots from the point and cycle down low is still getting points and has them in a playoff spot.
I think that they are still getting to know where to be I relation to each other after all the new changes. You can see them communicating with each other after every shift and it's taking time to gel with all the new players.
I believe Sutter mentioned something about it taking 30-35 games in his estimation for everyone to figure out playing together so hopefully that creativity continues to grow as guys know where to be. Until then the shots from the point and cycle down low is still getting points and has them in a playoff spot.
True, my hope is that they are trying to figure out how to play that style of game consistency and then will incorporate more creativity down the line and this is not the final product
I always thought Mangiapane was the example of a player that the Flames should have sold high. I don't think he's as bad as he's looked this season but I also don't think he's as good as last years stats. He's in the middle which is okay but not a $5.8 million player and pretty redundant with guys like Coleman and Dube. The lack of elite talent on offense is really showing up this season especially with Huberdeau playing with Backlund.
If Mangiapane and Dube were putting the puck in the net we'd be singing their praises. Many players on the Flames are in the same drought. Some of you are looking for any reason to criticize.
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If Mangiapane and Dube were putting the puck in the net we'd be singing their praises. Many players on the Flames are in the same drought. Some of you are looking for any reason to criticize.
YOu dont have to "look hard" to criticize Mangiapane or Dube thus far this year.
Both have underperformed in a big way, particularly 88.
