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		|  06-27-2022, 10:14 AM | #121 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Cobra  They have have finished last in the league, but I doubt they were the "worse team ever". |  
The 2016-17 Avs were the only team since the introduction of the shootout to finish with less than 50 points in an 82 game season.
 
It's funny, they finished 30th overall by 21 points, lost all three draft lotteries, but still ended up getting the best player in the draft at 4th overall. I wonder if they still would have picked Makar if they had one of the top 3 picks that year?
		 
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		|  06-27-2022, 10:28 AM | #122 |  
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					Originally Posted by jg13  Perry losing 3 straight finals with 3 different teams in consecutive seasons is just so sweet. |  
Maybe Corey Perry should be signed by the Flames just so the Flames can get to the finals. Still better than getting knocked out in the first 2 rounds    |  
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		|  06-27-2022, 10:34 AM | #123 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja  Makar’s resume at only 23:
 Calder
 Norris
 Conn Smythe
 Stanley Cup
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Makar also won the Hobey Baker. Not an NHL accolade, but...
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		|  06-27-2022, 10:44 AM | #124 |  
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					Originally Posted by FLAME ENVY  Makar also won the Hobey Baker. Not an NHL accolade, but... |  
And WJC though maybe we don’t mention that team.
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		|  06-27-2022, 10:47 AM | #125 |  
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					Originally Posted by getbak  The 2016-17 Avs were the only team since the introduction of the shootout to finish with less than 50 points in an 82 game season.
 
 It's funny, they finished 30th overall by 21 points, lost all three draft lotteries, but still ended up getting the best player in the draft at 4th overall. I wonder if they still would have picked Makar if they had one of the top 3 picks that year?
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Their first round draft history is funny.  Duchene the Hishon.  Landeskog then nada.  Mackinnon then Bleakly.  Rantanen then Jost.  Makar then Kaut.  Then Byram (and Newhook).
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		|  06-27-2022, 10:48 AM | #126 |  
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					Originally Posted by getbak  The 2016-17 Avs were the only team since the introduction of the shootout to finish with less than 50 points in an 82 game season.
 
 It's funny, they finished 30th overall by 21 points, lost all three draft lotteries, but still ended up getting the best player in the draft at 4th overall. I wonder if they still would have picked Makar if they had one of the top 3 picks that year?
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 last place team that already had MacKinnon, Rantanen, Landeskog, Compher, plus the likes of Duchene, E Johnson, Barrie
 
I hadn't appreciated just how Flamesy that team was though - Iggy, Comeau, Bourque, Zadorov, Colborne
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		|  06-27-2022, 10:54 AM | #127 |  
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					Originally Posted by CSharp  Maybe Corey Perry should be signed by the Flames just so the Flames can get to the finals. Still better than getting knocked out in the first 2 rounds   |  
He's not a UFA. He's taking Tampa to the cup again next year for another loss.
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		|  06-27-2022, 10:55 AM | #128 |  
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					Originally Posted by topfiverecords  He's not a UFA. He's taking Tampa to the cup again next year for another loss. |  
Pat Maroon is sooooooo mad at Perry.
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		|  06-27-2022, 11:03 AM | #129 |  
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			Rick Nash throwing a little shade at Kucherov....https://twitter.com/user/status/1541277183523651586 
EDIT: did that work?
		
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		|  06-27-2022, 11:09 AM | #130 |  
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That's not Rick Nash.  It's some Youtuber.
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		|  06-27-2022, 11:11 AM | #131 |  
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					Originally Posted by chedder  That's not Rick Nash.  It's some Youtuber. |    
I may need to retire from posting.
		 
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		|  06-27-2022, 11:40 AM | #132 |  
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			Meanwhile, on The Jeff Marek Show, Friedman was discussing the Conn Smythe and how he struggled with not putting McDavid on his ballot. WTF? And no, I am not kidding.
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		|  06-27-2022, 11:41 AM | #133 |  
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					Originally Posted by ComixZone  There’s a formula to building a Stanley Cup Champion.
 Avs laid the foundation and then continued to execute.
 
 What a beautifully constructed roster. That Landeskog interview was something else. Congrats to the Avs.
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Ah, yes. The "formula" ...
 
... "be extremely lucky."
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		|  06-27-2022, 11:53 AM | #134 |  
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					Originally Posted by OldSam  Meanwhile, on The Jeff Marek Show, Friedman was discussing the Conn Smythe and how he struggled with not putting McDavid on his ballot. WTF? And no, I am not kidding. |  
Come on… he did not actually say this did he? That is unforgivable if true lol
 
My god, the blinders RSN has on McDavid is wild.
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		|  06-27-2022, 11:55 AM | #135 |  
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					Originally Posted by OldSam  Meanwhile, on The Jeff Marek Show, Friedman was discussing the Conn Smythe and how he struggled with not putting McDavid on his ballot. WTF? And no, I am not kidding. |  
 am going back a long time here, I can't actually find the Smythe voting for 85-86, but the leading scorers that playoffs were Federko and Gilmour (both future HOFers that lost in round 3) , then Gretzky (lost in round 2) tied with Mullen (also both future HOFers)
 
Roy won the Smythe- and I'm guessing the conversation (although Roy was a no-brainer) would have fallen around Roy, Mullen, Naslund, Vernon, MacInnis, Lemieux, Reinhart etc- guys who played in the finals
 
I can't imagine voters figuring out how to fit in Federko or Gretzky
		 
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		|  06-27-2022, 11:56 AM | #136 |  
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					Originally Posted by OldSam  Meanwhile, on The Jeff Marek Show, Friedman was discussing the Conn Smythe and how he struggled with not putting McDavid on his ballot. WTF? And no, I am not kidding. |  
Please send a clip. It’s that ****ing hard to believe he would say that. Pretty sure that’s evidence there he gets paid a bonus any time he mentions Lord Connor
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		|  06-27-2022, 11:58 AM | #137 |  
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					Originally Posted by Textcritic  Ah, yes. The "formula" ...
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Lose lots and get a #### ton of top 10 picks.
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		|  06-27-2022, 12:06 PM | #138 |  
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			Honestly if I'm Nikita Kucherov and I come to the bench after I broke my stick with 20 seconds left in a 1 goal game that's also an elimination game for the Stanley Cup I'd lose my #### too.
 The linemates and trainer have one job in that scenario and that's to get you a stick ASAP. The fact it appears that he has to tell the trainer to go get the stick would be infuriating.
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		|  06-27-2022, 12:20 PM | #139 |  
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					Originally Posted by iamca  Boo…. 
Did not want either team, but living in CO and hearing the fireworks in our neighborhood, I wanted Tampa to at least muster a better 3rd period at home  |  
Yes, I heard them down here in Castle Rock as well.  The good news is that once Broncos training camp starts, the bandwagon fans won't remember this.    
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		|  06-27-2022, 12:27 PM | #140 |  
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					Originally Posted by SuperMatt18  Honestly if I'm Nikita Kucherov and I come to the bench after I broke my stick with 20 seconds left in a 1 goal game that's also an elimination game for the Stanley Cup I'd lose my #### too.
 The linemates and trainer have one job in that scenario and that's to get you a stick ASAP. The fact it appears that he has to tell the trainer to go get the stick would be infuriating.
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You can tell by the reaction of the trainer that he knew he messed up.  The bench looked chaotic though and I imagine it was hard for the trainer to actually see what was going on.
		 
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