[PGT] Ducks 1 Flames 0

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by stone hands

i dont know why the flames always play so scared vs anahiem and st louis

I didn't really see them as scared or outsized or anything. Just have no answer for the teams that clog the neutral zone

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dino7c

who was counting the chances the shot tracker from LA


Flames didn't have a great game but they certainly had more than 3 chances

War-on-ice agrees with hockeystats' numbers. Flames had three shots on net in the home plate, plus 1 missed shot in the home plate and seven shot attempts blocked in the home plate.

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by dino7c

who was counting the chances the shot tracker from LA


Flames didn't have a great game but they certainly had more than 3 chances

AND THE DUCKS HAD 19 CHANCES ON 21 SHOTS LOL

3 chances at even strength. seems about right.

19 on 21 does not, however.

[heep223]

Chances have nothing to do with shots. A team could have 100 chances and 3 shots on goal. They certainly could have had 19 chances and 21 shots.

Regardless, in my eyes this game was more or less an even battle. Credit the Ducks they played a veteran road game, got a few good bounces and played a yawn inducing style. I can see why they suck this year.

[zamler]

Some of you watched a different game Calgary generated very little offensively and didn't have the puck nearly enough. The Ducks shut down the Flames breakout game to perfection, Hartley has no answer when teams do this.

Originally Posted by dino7c

who was counting the chances the shot tracker from LA


Flames didn't have a great game but they certainly had more than 3 chances

AND THE DUCKS HAD 19 CHANCES ON 21 SHOTS LOL

Uh you don't seem to understand how these stats work.

[tvp2003]

Waive Raymond, then send him to Stockton. Call up Grant.
Hudler, and Colborne out.
Grant, Jooris in.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Bennett - Granlund - Jooris
Bouma - Stajan - Jones
Grant - Backlund - Bollig

[hockey.modern]

Hudler should not ever play on the top line until he gets his act together.

[Yoho]

Respect Wideman!

[Caged Great]

Honestly, Hudler should sit for a couple games. No need to have someone that looks that bad out there.

[Dion]

My brother is bad luck! When he decides to fly home for Christmas I always get us a pair of tickets to a Flames games and we end up losing. He hopes that next year he can break the streak of bad luck

[Dion]

Originally Posted by zamler

Some of you watched a different game Calgary generated very little offensively and didn't have the puck nearly enough. The Ducks shut down the Flames breakout game to perfection, Hartley has no answer when teams do this.

Uh you don't seem to understand how these stats work.

That scrap at the end of the game should have happened and the end of the first. Maybe that would have sparked some life into the Flames.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by zamler

Some of you watched a different game Calgary generated very little offensively and didn't have the puck nearly enough. The Ducks shut down the Flames breakout game to perfection, Hartley has no answer when teams do this.

Uh you don't seem to understand how these stats work.

I don't think anyone is saying the Flames played a great game...they were still one post away from 3 on 3 overtime

Ducks didn't have any real chances in the 3rd and very few throughout the game...if the qualification for these latest fancy stats is shots in the slot well maybe but they certainly didn't have 19 scoring chances by any real hockey logic

[AC]

I'm somewhere in the middle, I think the Flames were definitely outchanced to a frustrating level, but 19-3? Both of those numbers seem too extreme in either direction.

[GranteedEV]

War-on-ice's actual count has 21-10 (ES scoring chances) and 12-6 (ES High-danger chances). But it's true that we only got three shots through to the net from the home plate.

[Chingas]

I think that the issue with our inability to solve the trap is that we keep trying to pass it up the middle of the ice. We needed more movement up the boards and play a more North South game. Too many of our east west passes were picked off. Additionally we try to force a pass to someone in front of the net that has three guys on him already. That works 1 in a 1000.

I thought Ramo was really good tonight.

Russell is such a polarizing player to watch. Sometimes he does great things but it really seems like everytime we get stuck in our zone you can gaurantee that Russell is on the ice. Also how many times does he sit there with ample time to make a play and instead he hangs onto it for far too long and results in a clear attempt that gets turned over on the half boards.

Colborne just wasn't moving his feet tonight. I think that he may have had a talking to becasue he was much better in the last 25 minutes of the game. That being said the end result of a Colborne possesion is almost always going the other way recently. I really think that he could use a game from the sky to re-set.

I am really liking Hamitons game, it seems like contrary to Russell the vast majority of the times that he has the puck the end result is a good one.

I agree that Hudler was completely MIA in the last game but I thought that he appeared more engaged tonight.

Sam Bennett with another solid outing. One day the tides will turn for him. I like having Ferland on the PP and hope that Bennett will start to get more time.

When is Frolik due back? It can't be soon enough. Bouma has not been noticeable at all which is a good thing for a guy coming back from a serious injury, but we need some more relentless pressure on the team from some one other than Bennett. Jooris may be usefull in this regard as well.

Bollig hasn't played much lately but I think that given a few games to get some rhythm he may become much more useful. Sitting for so long and then brought out just for a game like this will pretty much insure that he stays a non factor. I know what time he is given he needs to perform with, but feel that he put himself in a place for a few opportunites tonight that he may have done more with had he been up to speed.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

War-on-ice's actual count has 21-10 (ES scoring chances) and 12-6 (ES High-danger chances). But it's true that we only got three shots through to the net from the home plate.

Sorry but any stat that uses a baseball analogy is not for me

chances were about even, neither side had many good ones

[ScorchyScorch]

When the hell did the Ducks get 19 scoring chances?

Were the LA stats counters in the building for this one?

[OzSome]

There is a reason why Anaheim sucks this season so far. They played a boring clogging the ice type of game. They have players who can score (Perry, Getzlaf, Kesler and their mobile defensemen) but Boudreau chose to play a more defensive hockey game most of their game. Makes you wonder why Getzlaf only scored 2 goals so far. Tonight their boring defensive works and they stopped Johnny Hockey and Flames defensemen from making some plays but their style of play will not work all the time. I wish It was Ferland and not Wideman who started punching Kesler at the end and then beat up Getzlaf after. Oh well Flames lost tonight. They'll start another winning streak vs the Kings on Thursday then.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Sorry but any stat that uses a baseball analogy is not for me

chances were about even, neither side had many good ones

Bolded comes across as pedantic. These were the shot attempts in the game at ES:



That's not "about even" any way you slice it. Yeah, neither side had many good ones. You could even say the Flames played a solid defensive game. Until you compare with the Ducks who played an elite defensive game. And yeah, it was boring and ugly. But it wasn't even.

If you need a legend:

B - Blocked
M - Missed
S - Shot
G - Goal
Italicized - Very soon after entering the zone (i.e. a rush chance)

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Bolded comes across as pedantic. These were the shot attempts in the game at ES:



That's not "about even" any way you slice it.

we could go back and forth all day...I watched the game with my own eyes and the Ducks had a few chances in the 2nd and basically none after they scored their goal. If you are trying to prove they got more shots from the slot area than fine