[PGT] Ducks 1 Flames 0

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by zamler

One thing clear to me is the Flames as a team are too small, I fear this will become very apparent playing the Kings.

Hamilton - Huge
Brodie - Average Size
Gio - Average Size
Wideman - Average Size
Russell - Undersized
Engelland - Above Average Size
Smid - Above Average Size

Gaudreau - Undersized
Monahan - Above Average Size
Frolik - Slightly above Average Size
Bennett - Average Size, will be above average size when he fills out
Granlund - Average Size
Hudler - Below Average Size
Jones - Above Average Size
Bouma - Above Average Size
Stajan - Slightly above average Size
Ferland - Above Average Size
Backlund - Average Size
Jooris - Average Size
Raymond - Slightly Below Average Size Mostly Because he's soft
Colborne - Huge
Bollig - Above Average Size Albeit useless

I don't think the Flames are too small, in fact I feel like we've got one of the bigger teams in the league. The problem is when Hartley's go to unit is:


Russell-Hamilton
Hudler-Monahan-Gaudreau

Where our three smallest players are always on the ice together and Monahan isn't really the most aggressive pursuer of the puck.

That's just bad design. Don't force Russell/Hudler/Gaudreau to always be out there together.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by heep223

I don't think the Flames played small at all tonight.

they didn't, Flames had the majority of the big hits, chances were fairly even but they buried one where the Flames hit a crossbar

some people are reading far too much into a one goal loss...if anything the Ducks realized they can't run and gun with the Flames so they just tried to lock it down all night and hope to get a goal, they did but it could have gone either way

[zamler]

Originally Posted by dino7c

they didn't, Flames had the majority of the big hits, chances were fairly even but they buried one where the Flames hit a crossbar

[AcGold]

New rule; if 4 defenders are in the zone after the puck enters the opposing zone there is no offside or icing

[Benched]

Wish we'd have gotten the first goal so we could have seen a different game where anaheim fore checked. Trap with the first man outside our blue line was terribly boring.

Reminds me of Brett sutter era. You might win, but even a win wasn't worth watching.


But we need to figure out a strategy to counter the trap. It's too effective against us.

[nightfx]

Kind of worries me that the team relies on the stretch pass so heavily that they don't know what to do when a team is able to shut it down.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Hamilton - Huge
Brodie - Average Size
Gio - Average Size
Wideman - Average Size
Russell - Undersized
Engelland - Above Average Size
Smid - Above Average Size

Gaudreau - Undersized
Monahan - Above Average Size
Frolik - Slightly above Average Size
Bennett - Average Size, will be above average size when he fills out
Granlund - Average Size
Hudler - Below Average Size
Jones - Above Average Size
Bouma - Above Average Size
Stajan - Slightly above average Size
Ferland - Above Average Size
Backlund - Average Size
Jooris - Average Size
Raymond - Slightly Below Average Size Mostly Because he's soft
Colborne - Huge
Bollig - Above Average Size Albeit useless

I don't think the Flames are too small, in fact I feel like we've got one of the bigger teams in the league. The problem is when Hartley's go to unit is:


Russell-Hamilton
Hudler-Monahan-Gaudreau

Where our three smallest players are always on the ice together and Monahan isn't really the most aggressive pursuer of the puck.

That's just bad design. Don't force Russell/Hudler/Gaudreau to always be out there together.

It was like a punch in face tonight realizing more than ever just how much we need a big finnisher on the right side on the top line.

Like really, really, really need this, #1 top priority. Hudler is done.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Hamilton - Huge
Brodie - Average Size
Gio - Average Size
Wideman - Average Size
Russell - Undersized
Engelland - Above Average Size
Smid - Above Average Size

Gaudreau - Undersized
Monahan - Above Average Size
Frolik - Slightly above Average Size
Bennett - Average Size, will be above average size when he fills out
Granlund - Average Size
Hudler - Below Average Size
Jones - Above Average Size
Bouma - Above Average Size
Stajan - Slightly above average Size
Ferland - Above Average Size
Backlund - Average Size
Jooris - Average Size
Raymond - Slightly Below Average Size Mostly Because he's soft
Colborne - Huge
Bollig - Above Average Size Albeit useless

I don't think the Flames are too small, in fact I feel like we've got one of the bigger teams in the league. The problem is when Hartley's go to unit is:


Russell-Hamilton
Hudler-Monahan-Gaudreau

Where our three smallest players are always on the ice together and Monahan isn't really the most aggressive pursuer of the puck.

That's just bad design. Don't force Russell/Hudler/Gaudreau to always be out there together.

The lines Hartley has been running at home just set a franchise record for wins.

The captain played like crap, could have been 2-0 directly from one of his mistakes.

Can't win them all. I thought the ducks got a ton of free line changes from waved off icing calls. Finish off LA on NYE.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Any team looking to shut down the Flames should watch tonight's game tape. That was a defensive clinic by Anaheim, but it sure makes the game boring as hell to watch.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by nightfx

Kind of worries me that the team relies on the stretch pass so heavily that they don't know what to do when a team is able to shut it down.

The funny thing is, go back and look at the games they win. They never use it.

I honestly think Hartley uses the stretch pass to break the high pressure trap teams, but it clearly doesn't work.

It's also the common safe play for the defense when he feels he's got no time. They don't keep the stat, but the flames lead the league in sure in icings. If there's no forward available and the D to D is cut off they try to bomb a low percentage but hard to pick off bomb up the ice.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Means nothing everyone know how he is. Hes not a rookie.

Should be a suspension.

The league has much more impactful things to worry about disciplining right than something as trivial as what Kesler did there. Love the Flames response though, I did think the best take away from this game was how much more physical the Flames were with the Ducks, so that ending was just the topper to that.

[CaptainCrunch]

Wow I watched this tonight, and thought that it was 90's trap interference hockey.

The refs put their whistles in their pocket tonight to the determent of any kind of offensive hockey.

Ah well move on.

[btimbit]

Flames just don't match up well against teams that play the trap. The go too for that type of system is the stretch pass, which is pretty much exactly what trap teams want you to try

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Wow I watched this tonight, and thought that it was 90's trap interference hockey.

The refs put their whistles in their pocket tonight to the determent of any kind of offensive hockey.

Ah well move on.

Yup easily could have been a baker's dozen holding and interference calls. But ya ah well. Learn from it and move on.

[PsYcNeT]

Hudler doesnt move his feet for nothing. What the hell happened.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Hudler doesnt move his feet for nothing. What the hell happened.

Neither does Gio when the team loses. His giveaway right in the slot to a duck was brutal.

Team made to to the top 8 without the guy last season. He gets way too much rope for garbage play and not skating with the puck.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by zamler

who was counting the chances the shot tracker from LA


Flames didn't have a great game but they certainly had more than 3 chances

AND THE DUCKS HAD 19 CHANCES ON 21 SHOTS LOL

[stone hands]

i dont know why the flames always play so scared vs anahiem and st louis

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by stone hands

i dont know why the flames always play so scared vs anahiem and st louis

I thought they were pretty feisty out there. Blames the Ducks and their stupid trap system.

[Jayems]

Tough game. They played Johnny perfectly. Slashed, whacked, hacked every chance they got. He seemed tentative and passive.

Liked Bennett's game again. He's on a roll, just can't score.

Jones played good.

Every time we got the puck in our dzone we tossed it into the neutral zone to nobody.

Can't fault Ramo on their goal. Was a great shot.

Sucks the streak came to an end.