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Old 05-03-2013, 12:10 AM   #121
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That's a predatory hit right to the head. Gryba's intention was CLEARLY to put Eller out, and he did.

That does not belong in the game of hockey. Period.
I think someone needs to take off their whiny Habs fan glasses

Of course, getting the whine out of a Habs fan is a lot like finding a needle in a haystack.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:14 AM   #122
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If any action is taken at the hearing all of what little, and I mean little faith I have left in the NHL will be gone. This was nothing more than a big guy hitting a small guy, NOTHING about the hit was dirty. Heck I know Gryba must feel awful but whoever threw that suicide pass should share some of that. I've played as a defenceman my whole life and obviously nowhere near the level these guys do, you learn pretty early on playing that position that you don't make that pass. Ever.

Bad result, shouldn't have even been a penalty honestly but hopefully no further action is taken and hopefully Eller is ok.

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Old 05-03-2013, 12:24 AM   #123
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Looks like a clean bit to me... The damage was done when Eller hit the ice as he landed face first.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:56 AM   #124
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Calling a hearing is the right thing. While I completely agree with the sentiments that it was a clean hit with a disastrous result, when your fans see something like that, best to take, all precautions and perform complete due diligence to ensure it was thoroughly reviewed, even if the outcome is pretty obvious. Just good optics for the fans and players.

They especially shouldn't be listening to the tsn panel
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wtf what's wrong with that hit?
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Why is that a penalty? Sucks he got hurt, but was a suicide pass.
Garry Galley points it out on the replay that Eller touched the puck before the hit. It should not be an interference penalty. Gryba will not be suspended and the penalty should be rescinded. The ref should be pulled from the series, he let the crowd get to him. http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/stanleycup2013/2013/05/did-you-see-that-lars-eller-stretchered-off-ice.html
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:42 AM   #126
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Clean hit. Didn't charge, didn't leave his feet, didn't lift his arm.

Result of injury was due to a dumb suicide pass.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:57 AM   #127
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Beauty hit. Sucks that Eller got injured but that is hockey.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:00 AM   #128
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Garry Galley points it out on the replay that Eller touched the puck before the hit. It should not be an interference penalty. Gryba will not be suspended and the penalty should be rescinded. The ref should be pulled from the series, he let the crowd get to him. http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/stanleycup2013/2013/05/did-you-see-that-lars-eller-stretchered-off-ice.html
Tough call for a ref to make at game speed. 95% of devastating hits like this are penalties.

I agree not a dirty hit though.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:02 AM   #129
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That's a predatory hit right to the head. Gryba's intention was CLEARLY to put Eller out, and he did.

That does not belong in the game of hockey. Period.
And Chara should have went to jail for 6 months for the hit on Pacioretty. Oh, and Gravboski should have been deported for biting Markov. But the suspension on Maurice Richard for punching a linesman, that's too long. Lets burn down our own city! (a day in the life of a habs fan)
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:09 AM   #130
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How come they are playing again tonight? I don't think I remember the last time there was a game back-to-back in the playoffs.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:15 AM   #131
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Garry Galley points it out on the replay that Eller touched the puck before the hit. It should not be an interference penalty. Gryba will not be suspended and the penalty should be rescinded. The ref should be pulled from the series, he let the crowd get to him. http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/stanleycup2013/2013/05/did-you-see-that-lars-eller-stretchered-off-ice.html
The ref let the blood get to him. I don't fault him/them for that. Calling it a major was natural human reaction.

That being said, the fault for that hit lays entirely on Diaz. He set a teammate up to get killed and it looks to me like primary contact was shoulder, not head.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:17 AM   #132
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How come they are playing again tonight? I don't think I remember the last time there was a game back-to-back in the playoffs.
Last year, Boston-Washington series. It happens far more frequently than you remember.
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The Ottawa Sun putting that picture on the front page is so far from not cool. Show some class. Stupid.
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So if Ference gets a game for his hit, I'm thinking Gryba gets a game for this hit.

Edit: Just remembered that Ference never got a penalty for that hit, so maybe the NHL will say 5 and a game was enough. I'm still thinking he will get a game or 2 just because he is having a hearing, if they weren't going to suspend him why would they have one?

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Old 05-03-2013, 07:32 AM   #135
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So if Ference gets a game for his hit, I'm thinking Gryba gets a game for this hit.
Why? One was a clear head first hit and the other was obviously a clean bodycheck. They are not the same at all.
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Why? One was a clear head first hit and the other was obviously a clean bodycheck. They are not the same at all.
Agree to disagree, Gryba was a head first hit in my opinion.

Eller probably doesn't do a 180 if Gryba catches him with his body. I'm not saying there was intent to injure, I'm just saying that in the past we have seen guys suspended for hits to the head.

Stupid play by Diaz, and if you're Gryba you can't pass up a chance to hit a guy in that scenario or you'll wind up on the bench pretty quick. Unfortunate outcome as it looked like Eller turned up the ice just as he got the puck, and that changed Gryba's angle on the hit which made him clip Eller's head instead of getting all body.

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Old 05-03-2013, 08:04 AM   #137
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The real question is, how many 911 calls were made in reference to the hit?

I'm a Sens fan, and after seeing the hit multiple times, and in slow motion, I was mad about the penalty call. Who's ever heard of 5 and a game for interference? But I can't blame the refs for the call on the ice. You've got a guy lying in a heap out cold, blood everywhere (all from Eller hitting the ice by the looks of it). What else could they do but call the major?

The hearing is merely a formality, I believe. The hit was clean. Devastating, but clean. Gryba led with his hip, made contact all the way up the torso, and although he did catch the head with his shoulder, that's allowed in that kind of hit.

Darren Dreger is whining about the hit on Twitter right now. The "socially acceptable thing to do was to allow Eller to skate by. That's not how the game is played at any level". What a load of crap. Montreal was in full-scale track meet mode that period, and Gryba should have allowed Eller to blow by him on the break? Any coach in the league would sanction that hit.

The socially acceptable thing to do would be to not hang your teammate out on the clothesline like that. What in God's name was Diaz thinking? He's just as responsible for Eller's condition as Gryba.

Hopefully Eller is OK, although it certainly looks like he's done for the year. Of course, if Carey keeps playing the way he did in the 3rd, the season for Montreal isn't going to last long anyways. Those were some stinky goals.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:06 AM   #138
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Agree to disagree, Gryba was a head first hit in my opinion.

How can you have an opinion like that when there's video evidence? Head was NOT first. That's a fact.
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Hopefully Eller is OK, although it certainly looks like he's done for the year. Of course, if Carey keeps playing the way he did in the 3rd, the season for Montreal isn't going to last long anyways. Those were some stinky goals.
Depends on how bad the concussion is and what these "facial fractures" are. If it's just a broken nose and some dental work you would think he would be back after the concussion has cleared, guys play with broken noses and dental issues all the time. If it's something like a broken orbital or cheek bone then yeah he is done for the year. This all of course doesn't matter if they can't beat the Sens.
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Worth watching. Not saying Frasier is the be all, end all, but a good explanation nonetheless.

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