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Old 04-30-2023, 09:49 PM   #1241
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Barkov has five points in six games (1+4) in the playoffs but has been a non factor offensively the whole series. He is great defensively and rarely makes the wrong play and is a great player otherwise, but looking at assists specifically doesn't really mean much.
It means his team scored 5 goals directly because of his play. How can that not mean much or not be a factor offensively?
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Old 04-30-2023, 09:52 PM   #1242
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Bruins really looked like they choked on this one for large potions of the game. Really gripping the stick.
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Old 04-30-2023, 09:52 PM   #1243
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I don't know. When I watch him play, I don's see a guy creating offence. I see a guy making good (even smart) offensive plays, but he isn't doing anything to create any offence.

I'm obviously not explaining it properly, but I just see a huge difference between a guy like Gaudreau who can create offence all by himself... either on his own or by adapting his play to utilize his linemates... vs a guy like Huberdeau who just makes high probability plays regardless if anyone's there to capitalize on them or not.

Even Sutter pointed out early in the season that Huberdeau makes "smart plays" to put the puck in an open area of the ice, and that the rest of the team needs to figure out where that is and start getting there to capitalize. That's what I mean by participatory offence vs creative offence.
You could've just said "Huberdeau doesn't have Johnny's puck carrying or stickhandling" instead of saying he doesn't do anything to create offense. He's obviously not as flashy as Johnny, but his style looked pretty effective here at making plays

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Old 04-30-2023, 09:53 PM   #1244
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Dramatic much? I mean you can always jump ship. Good for those guys but I think the Flames and Huby will be just fine.
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Frankly the only reason I wanted Florida to lose is the endless whining here about how they weren’t “kept” (after both asking for a trade).
As a fan you have to being asking WHY they wanted out
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Bruins needed Lucic, their decision to not aqcuire him at the deadline was their death-knell. He was the last piece of that puzzle. Dumb dumbs.
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Old 04-30-2023, 09:58 PM   #1246
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Barkov has five points in six games (1+4) in the playoffs but has been a non factor offensively the whole series. He is great defensively and rarely makes the wrong play and is a great player otherwise, but looking at assists specifically doesn't really mean much.
That's sample size. Huberdeau knows how to be a play maker. He wasn't relying on linemates like Bennett, Duclair, Reinhardt, etc.. To get him to 115 points last year
For the most part he was playing with guys who couldn't do more than drive the net.

I do admit that Huberdeau's game plan is somewhat simple. Create space with fancy stick work then throw the puck towards the slot/net. He happens to be excellent at that, but relies on other players to finish.

Huberdeau's game relies on a group of skaters attacking the net at once. Different from what the flames did this year.
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Old 04-30-2023, 09:58 PM   #1247
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Honestly I'm not sure anyone was scoring 100 points in Calgary this season with the style of play and ice time of top players...or lack thereof
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Old 04-30-2023, 09:59 PM   #1248
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As a fan you have to being asking WHY they wanted out
Sure, just not during a game not involving the Flames and not every other post with a sarcastic “sure wish we had a guy like Tkachuk”. Just tiresome and unoriginal.
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Old 04-30-2023, 09:59 PM   #1249
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It means his team scored 5 goals directly because of his play. How can that not mean much or not be a factor offensively?

Because assists can come out of broken plays or on the PP like today. Barkov shot the puck and hit a bruins defender that out of luck went straight to Montour who shot it in. Barkov just gets icetime and PP1 where those rack up. He was totally invisible offensively the whole series.
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Old 04-30-2023, 10:02 PM   #1250
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That's sample size. Huberdeau knows how to be a play maker. He wasn't relying on linemates like Bennett, Duclair, Reinhardt, etc.. To get him to 115 points last year
For the most part he was playing with guys who couldn't do more than drive the net.

I do admit that Huberdeau's game plan is somewhat simple. Create space with fancy stick work then throw the puck towards the slot/net. He happens to be excellent at that, but relies on other players to finish.

Huberdeau's game relies on a group of skaters attacking the net at once. Different from what the flames did this year.

Huberdeau is a great playmaker, I'm just saying looking at assist heavy player can be misleading.
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Old 04-30-2023, 10:02 PM   #1251
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Old 04-30-2023, 10:06 PM   #1252
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I'm really happy for Bob.
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I'm really happy for Bob.
I guess he's earned his co tract after all.
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Old 04-30-2023, 10:12 PM   #1254
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You could've just said "Huberdeau doesn't have Johnny's puck carrying or stickhandling" instead of saying he doesn't do anything to create offense. He's obviously not as flashy as Johnny, but his style looked pretty effective here at making plays

Puck carrying is definitely the main ingredient of difference.
Huberdeau seems more like an excellent link up player but he's not the puck carrier or shooter so I think that's why it's difficult go figure him out right now.
We likely need a sniper and a pick carrier on his line to unleash his talents.
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Incredible presser by Paul Maurice. The highlights:

"proud to be associated with the players" referred to himself as a glorified line caller and gate opener in the series.
Praise again for Tkachuk and Bennett on the winner, saying those are just good hockey plays from guys that know how to win
Montour's game has gone from purely talented to a focused game where he knows what he can do and has built confidence on that
Referred to Reinhart as one of the smartest guys in the game that will likely go on to become a head coach, but more likely a G.M. Said he understands the game and the players (especially on the other team) better than anyone else.

Last but not least: Said that this win will serve this team's success for the next 5 years because of the level of the opponent and just how much they needed to bring to beat them.

Pretty incredible...never thought much of him until now.
Good outcome for the Panthers but I still view Maurice as an overrated blowhard.

I find nothing about his interactions with the media genuine, and his BS accusations against Tkachuk during the bubble series were disqualifying, even if it was gamesmanship.
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Old 04-30-2023, 10:54 PM   #1256
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Improve, yes.

But do you want to pay a guy $10.5MM to score 56 points?

When people say he will improve, they are talking about star numbers.
There is nothing in his history to suggest he is a 56 point player. Odds are in favour he puts up "star numbers".
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Old 04-30-2023, 10:55 PM   #1257
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There is nothing in his history to suggest he is a 56 point player. Odds are in favour he puts up "star numbers".
Except his most recent 82 games...
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Old 04-30-2023, 10:57 PM   #1258
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Flames leading scorer had 73 points...it wasn't an easy year to put up points in Calgary

Also 79 games
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Old 04-30-2023, 11:00 PM   #1259
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I have a hard time calling this series a fluke. I thought Florida looked like the better team throughout the series from what I saw. Playoffs are a different animal and there was no elevation from the Bruins side.

A little similar to what we saw when the Flames got rolled by the Avs in round 1 but not quite as catastrophic.

Winning the league let alone conference so early looks like it can certainly damage a team
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Old 04-30-2023, 11:04 PM   #1260
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Ok but shout-out to the bruins dj. He was cranking out some fabulous Metallica gems tonight. Stuff you don't usually hear at hockey games.

Go Chucky and Bennett! F the Laughs.

Go Flams
I could have sworn I heard them playing Nirvana’s Territorial Pissings…
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