Wireless City on Macleod Trail **UPDATE** NO LONGER STAFFED BY CREEPS

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by rubecube

He's continued to send her messages. Last night she received one from him asking if she had a camera phone (odd since he should know). It hasn't been 1 or 2, it's been about a dozen.

Is she keeping his messages, and her messages telling him to bugger off.

[DESS]

Originally Posted by rubecube

He's continued to send her messages. Last night she received one from him asking if she had a camera phone (odd since he should know). It hasn't been 1 or 2, it's been about a dozen.

Before this thread goes completely AWOL any chance you could give us her responses to his texting? As you can see we've been very busy making assumptions, lol.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by onetwo_threefour

As for PsYcNeT's post, I would submit that you are gettting it totally wrong. People aren't upset that it's a text, they're upset that people are taking information acquired from what should have been the innocuous act of leaving your contact information with a business that would need to contact you for business reasons and using it to contact you for other reasons. I don't think it's old fashioned for a customer to expect the business they deal with to have trained their employees not to take personal advantage of information obtained in the course of their duties. In fact it is a fundamental employmet principle that that information is the property and responsibility of the employer. It's not about being a fuddy-duddy, it's about responsible business owners and employees. (And a little bit of creepiness too.)

Here's what I'm looking for. Discourse.

It's indefensible that he garnered her information from the workplace, and I'm not disputing that.

However, I honestly think people are far too assuming in what they can and cannot expect from businesses and their teenage under-trained employees.

We shake our heads and shrug it off when a fast-food joint can't even do something as basic as clean the bathroom properly, and we either a) don't go there again, or b) don't use the bathroom there. Thats a consumer choice.

Now, a real stick-up-the-rear would likely complain to management, but misses the point entirely that PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS and young people (like the type pathetic enough to work at a cell-phone store) are probably even bigger idiots.

Now, this is not to say it is anyones fault if some moron breaks the law and uses your info unscupulously.

All I'm really getting at I guess, is people shouldn't be so indignant and self-righteous, or more importantly, surprised.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Knalus

They get this from people who when they hear stories like this immediately tell the girl they should go to the Privacy Commissioner, because the offense is soooo heinous, the authorities must be immediately be notified so that the decent and sane people of the world don't have to come in contact with such filth. They claim that because people over-react and think there are boogeymen behind every bush and nothing is ever considered an innocent mistake anymore.

In this case, where she's said no and he's sent a dozen messages, I don't think its an over reaction.

Again the concern has to be that she handed this creepy guy a cellphone that probably had an address book in it.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by jydk

When is asking a girl out illegal?

Wow, really, still not getting it?

Stealing her information is the crime.

Originally Posted by jydk

She said no, end of story.

Well, no, but that's besides the point (which, if you've forgotten, is stealing her private info).

Originally Posted by jydk

first of all the employer hasn't done anything wrong yet.

IF the customer returns to the store and the manager/franchise doesn't care, I would consider that a MAJOR problem. As it stands, you are right, as far as we know the store has not done anything wrong.

Originally Posted by jydk

I just think this is getting blown way out of proportion.

You're probably right.

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by rubecube

He's continued to send her messages. Last night she received one from him asking if she had a camera phone (odd since he should know). It hasn't been 1 or 2, it's been about a dozen.

Info I didn't know before I posted. That kinda changes things somewhat.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by rubecube

He's continued to send her messages. Last night she received one from him asking if she had a camera phone (odd since he should know). It hasn't been 1 or 2, it's been about a dozen.

So is she sending anything back? Because that's mighty strange if she's not.

Tell her to tell the guy to eff off and die. Legalities aside, it's the same as some dude in the bar hitting on her. Want him to stop? Crush his ego.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by jydk

Thank you, I read the posts. Have you really though about what happened here? Illegal purposes? When is asking a girl out illegal? Cause that was the purpose right. She said no, end of story. Poor guy got rejected is what happened here. I'm not saying what he did was the way to go about getting a date, but for christ sakes. Turing a blind eye, first of all the employer hasn't done anything wrong yet. I just think this is getting blown way out of proportion.

Using the information provided for professional purposes to contact her personally was illegal, so I'm not sure why that part is so hard to comprehend.

Apparently you aren't grasping the notion of a hypothetical. The "scary situation" was raised as part of a hypothetical, which means it's not real. Nobody has said that what we know so far has created a scary situation, what has been said is that an employer who has access to sensitive information and doesn't care how it's treated presents a real problem. If this guys employer laughed this off and generally didn't care what his employees did with this info I'd consider that fairly scary, there's plenty that can be done quite easily if someone has the right personal information.

[malcolmk14]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

So is she sending anything back? Because that's mighty strange if she's not.

This is exactly what I thought. Girls can be pretty non-confrontational, and I would not be surprised if she "doesn't want to be mean" and just can't tell him to bugger off.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if she's texted back things that just don't make it clear to the guy that she wants him to stop texting her.

I think for us to make a clear judgement on this, we need to know what she's been texting back (if anything).

Another idea... Why don't you just ask her for his cell number and maybe post it here on CP by accident.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by rubecube

He's continued to send her messages. Last night she received one from him asking if she had a camera phone (odd since he should know). It hasn't been 1 or 2, it's been about a dozen.

Ya, dude, why aren't you there right now? If that was my sister I'd be all over that guy. I'd happily pose as you if you like, I pass that store on the way home. (I kid)

[ah123]

Don't know how feasible it is for her, but I would suggest that she change her cell number - depending on which company she is with (Rogers, Telus, Bell,...), she might be able to do it online.

And definitely complain to the manager of Wireless City

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay

Ya, dude, why aren't you there right now?

I think he mentioned on page 1 that he is not in the 403.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay

Ya, dude, why aren't you there right now? If that was my sister I'd be all over that guy. I'd happily pose as you if you like, I pass that store on the way home. (I kid)

That quote + your user name = win

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by Gozer

I think he mentioned on page 1 that he is not in the 403.

Riiiight, forgot about that.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by Burninator

That quote + your user name = win

Ya, I coulda phrased that better

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by DESS

There is nothing scary about this situation. You need to chill dude. If this case was indicative of privacy abuses, PIPA wouldn't even exist. You are completely blowing this whole thing out of proportion. It's absurd, frankly.

Okay, from a female's perspective, some guy I am not interested in has my phone number, address, and other personal information and won't leave me alone. Stalking? Nooooo, not scary at all.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Instead of fibbing about having a boyfriend, she should just straight up tell they guy she isn't interested and to not contact her anymore.

If he continues, then your duty as big brother is to go down there and make him look like a pansy in front of everyone.

What difference does it make what she says to him? If a chick tells you no thanks, I have a man, do you continue to persue in hopes she'll cheat? Clearly, if she's wanting to do that, she may say, "I have a man already, but what the hell." Why should I have to tell a man to eff off? I shouldn't have to be rude. That's the polite way of saying, no thank-you.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by FireFly

What difference does it make what she says to him? If a chick tells you no thanks, I have a man, do you continue to persue in hopes she'll cheat? Clearly, if she's wanting to do that, she may say, "I have a man already, but what the hell." Why should I have to tell a man to eff off? I shouldn't have to be rude. That's the polite way of saying, no thank-you.

So what would you say to a potential stalker?

"Excuse me good sir, I find your misguided attempts at flirtation bothersome at best and would prefer if you ceased all formal communication twixt us post haste."

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Okay, from a female's perspective, some guy I am not interested in has my phone number, address, and other personal information and won't leave me alone. Stalking? Nooooo, not scary at all.

I think this is the part you and Dess have the real difference in. He assumed he wasn't bothering her to the extent he seems to be, and you did.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

So what would you say to a potential stalker?

"Excuse me good sir, I find your misguided attempts at flirtation bothersome at best and would prefer if you ceased all formal communication twixt us post haste."

How about, hey dirtbag, I'm probably the only guy in this room right now thats actually killed a person.

No killed him dead.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

So what would you say to a potential stalker?

"Excuse me good sir, I find your misguided attempts at flirtation bothersome at best and would prefer if you ceased all formal communication twixt us post haste."

Lol. But when a guy asks you out, you don't know he's stalker material right away. Saying "I'm taken" is code for piss off. That's all she needed to say. If she hasn't said anything stronger since then, well, that's odd and unfortunate. Clearly, she needs to be more firm. My point is she shouldn't have to be. Then again, we don't know what else she has said.