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[DESS]

Originally Posted by Rathji

They don't. As I said in my first post the manager should be contacted first to see if the situation can be resolved without legal action. If he refuses to, then you must contact PIPA because he is handling a lot of personal information and doesn't care what happens to it. That is a very scary situation and is the exact reason why PIPA needs to be there in the first place.

There is nothing scary about this situation. You need to chill dude. If this case was indicative of privacy abuses, PIPA wouldn't even exist. You are completely blowing this whole thing out of proportion. It's absurd, frankly.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by gozer

wow, the "lets exterminate everything" guy plays the overreaction card?

This place never fails to amaze.

:d

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by DESS

You are completely blowing this whole thing out of proportion. It's absurd, frankly.

Ok, you are the LAST person on this board that should tell someone else they are blowing something out of proportion.

Absurd? Have you read any of your posts lately?

[DESS]

Originally Posted by Porkchopp

q1: How old is she?
q2: How old is he?
q3: DESS, do you work at a cell phone store?

Just make sure she keeps records of any and all contact he makes with her. If she's told him to stop and he won't take it to the police.

Wasn't me...I'm happily married already to Mrs. DESS.

(sorry ladies )

[troutman]

He just wants to find love in a cold, cruel world.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by DESS

You are completely blowing this whole thing out of proportion. It's absurd, frankly.

I'm in the "overreacting" crowd too. IF he had asked the girl out in the store (which we all agree is fine) then he should have been asking for her number and then saving it.

The unethical act was not the text, it was keeping information he had no right to keep.

[PsYcNeT]

So am I on like 30 ignore lists, or are all the points I brought up on page 2 not going to be acknowledged?

There is good reason why people view this scenario as being blown out of proportion

[DESS]

Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay

Ok, you are the LAST person on this board that should tell someone else they are blowing something out of proportion.

Absurd? Have you read any of your posts lately?

I have extreme views but I can back them up with perfectly sound logic. Sending somebody a text message, regardless of how you got the number, is hardly intrusive, creepy, a violation of privacy, or anything else negative you guys want to ascribe to it.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by DESS

I have extreme views but I can back them up with perfectly sound logic. Sending somebody a text message, regardless of how you got the number, is hardly intrusive, creepy, a violation of privacy, or anything else negative you guys want to ascribe to it.

Yeah I got an email about some penis pills the other day from SOMEONE I DONT KNOW!

Where's that privacy commissioner?

[DESS]

PsYcNeT, people stopped reading after the bolded section, sorry buddy.

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Well, for a moment I play DESS's advocate here.

Let me preface this by saying this is super creepy, and I do not endorse this behaviour at all.

HOWEVER

In today's electronic age we cannot expect privacy so simply any longer. People can find us, and anything about us with a mouse click and some creative Google-ing. To freak out that someone has your phone number is pretty, well, old-fashioned.

I think alot of people are getting worked up about this because they think a text-message is more personal than a phone call. It's not.

Part of the technology trade-off is having our lives, personalities, relationships, and personal information be much more open and accessable than it ever was. These are the truths of the future we have to accept as a society, because we made this bed, so we must lay in it.

[cSpooge]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Yeah I got an email about some penis pills the other day from SOMEONE I DONT KNOW!

Where's that privacy commissioner?

if you can prove who the spam came from you CAN file a complaint with the privacy commission. SPAM is on of the reasons it was brought it and it is one part of the law that spammers can be charged under.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by DESS

I have extreme views but I can back them up with perfectly sound logic. Sending somebody a text message, regardless of how you got the number, is hardly intrusive, creepy, a violation of privacy, or anything else negative you guys want to ascribe to it.

Your logic in those posts was anything but perfectly sound.

You are looking at this situation as a guy (I'm assuming your a guy anyways). You have to thing about how a girl would react to that. Most women don't like that.

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay

Ok, you are the LAST person on this board that should tell someone else they are blowing something out of proportion.

Absurd? Have you read any of your posts lately?

Regardless - he's right on this one.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by DESS

There is nothing scary about this situation. You need to chill dude. If this case was indicative of privacy abuses, PIPA wouldn't even exist. You are completely blowing this whole thing out of proportion. It's absurd, frankly.

There's nothing scary about the fact that someone who has been entrusted with personal information that can be used for a whole number of things, such as the total annihilation of your credit rating, doesn't care to keep that information private? Seriously?

This is where you need to present some of your typical sound logic.

[jydk]

Originally Posted by Rathji

They don't. As I said in my first post the manager should be contacted first to see if the situation can be resolved without legal action. If he refuses to, then you must contact PIPA because he is handling a lot of personal information and doesn't care what happens to it. That is a very scary situation and is the exact reason why PIPA needs to be there in the first place.

Lets put things back into perspective, a most likely harmless individual sent a harmless flirtatious text to a girl. No threats were made of any kind. If she said she has a boyfriend and tells him not to text her anymore and he stops, then leave it alone. DESS, I back you 100%. "scary situation" have you lost you mind?

[PsYcNeT]

Well if you all weren't such materialists, things like your credit rating wouldn't be so important, would it?

Originally Posted by cSpooge

if you can prove who the spam came from you CAN file a complaint with the privacy commission. SPAM is on of the reasons it was brought it and it is one part of the law that spammers can be charged under.

If I were so anal that I would go out of my way to do that, then I hope I would realize it and off myself before the idiocy spread like zombie plague.

[onetwo_threefour]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Well, for a moment I play DESS's advocate here.

Let me preface this by saying this is super creepy, and I do not endorse this behaviour at all.

HOWEVER

In today's electronic age we cannot expect privacy so simply any longer. People can find us, and anything about us with a mouse click and some creative Google-ing. To freak out that someone has your phone number is pretty, well, old-fashioned.

I think alot of people are getting worked up about this because they think a text-message is more personal than a phone call. It's not.

Part of the technology trade-off is having our lives, personalities, relationships, and personal information be much more open and accessable than it ever was. These are the truths of the future we have to accept as a society, because we made this bed, so we must lay in it.

Actually, I was going to respond to this, but had to catch up. And no DESS, people don't reject your opinions because of who you are, it's because they are crazy. Your logical bases have been flawed in every argument you've raised, and when it's pointed out to you, you just ignore it.

As for PsYcNeT's post, I would submit that you are gettting it totally wrong. People aren't upset that it's a text, they're upset that people are taking information acquired from what should have been the innocuous act of leaving your contact information with a business that would need to contact you for business reasons and using it to contact you for other reasons. I don't think it's old fashioned for a customer to expect the business they deal with to have trained their employees not to take personal advantage of information obtained in the course of their duties. In fact it is a fundamental employmet principle that that information is the property and responsibility of the employer. It's not about being a fuddy-duddy, it's about responsible business owners and employees. (And a little bit of creepiness too.)

[missdpuck]

Does the guy have a track record of doing this with other female customers? That would be creepy. Maybe he's just a shy guy who wishes he hadn't let her get away. It seems like so many people are quick to cry "stalker" just because someone says hello to them. That being said, I don't know the whole situation. But I just find the stalker/creep thing gets out of hand sometimes. I think most people have made a fool out of themselves in pursuit of a date at one time or another. It's a matter of degree.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by DESS

I have extreme views but I can back them up with perfectly sound logic.

Logic and rationalization are not the same thing.

Originally Posted by DESS

Sending somebody a text message, regardless of how you got the number, is hardly intrusive, creepy, a violation of privacy, or anything else negative you guys want to ascribe to it.

This is an excellent example of your logic. You don't consider your phone number to be private, therefore no one's phone number is private, therefore stealing a phone number is not a crime (legality be damned), and on top of that you claim that this girl has no right to feel uncomfortable about it. This "logical" argument is simply based off of your personal opinion of your perception of what happened.

You have every right to your opinion, and I like reading threads you're in (not a backhanded insult), but spewing this garbage about being a slave to logic is too much.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by DESS

I have extreme views but I can back them up with perfectly sound logic. Sending somebody a text message, regardless of how you got the number, is hardly intrusive, creepy, a violation of privacy, or anything else negative you guys want to ascribe to it.

You are missing the point. It's not about how he got into contact with her that's the problem. Whether it's a text, phone call, showing up at her door step (although that would make the situation worse). It's that he STOLE her private information.

What if he was the mail man and he opened up her cell phone bill and looked at the number and sent her a text? By your apparent logic it's ok, because it's only a text.