2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Lindholm + Hanifin for DeBrincat + Kane. Get it done.

Eww that would be worse than the return for Tkachuk. (For where this organization is - no need for DeBrincat who is a UFA in 3 seasons and wanted no part of signing in Canada with Ottawa).

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Flames Target? No. Required salary going back to facilitate a deal, yes.

Good luck dumping a horrible contract and getting cap flexibility and defensive upgrade without giving up prime assets. Beauvillier was at least a pending free agent but no one takes Garland without a massive sweetener.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I get it, the deadline brings the best returns, but fans need to understand it's not as simple as "we have all the players, wait for all the teams to have cap space". We're already kind of flooding the market a bit within our team AND more players will be made available as more teams become sellers and suddenly you could be without a dance partner on one or more players.

Not sure why you'd think that. What if more teams become buyers?

Toronto could fall off and they could trade Nylander, who doesn't play the same position as any of our players. So could St. Louis, and they could trade...Scandella?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by stemit14

What would the add from Vancouver need to be if the flames took back Tyler Myers? Pretty sure he is still just a salary dump at this point but tough to know if the Canucks would risk disrupting the team that much.

To Vancouver:
Zadorov

To Calgary:
Tyler Myers
2024 1st round pick
2024 2nd round pick
Aatu Raty

Hell of a price to pay to dump less than a year of Tyler Myers.

If I’m not mistaken, he’s been playing well this year in a limited role compared to previous years. Not sure they’re that desperate to move him.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Keep the team together until the deadline. Win as much as possible. Move all four on deadline day for picks, prospects and a couple of serviceable players. See if you can still hang on to a playoff spot.

That hasn’t worked well for us. Teams will start to look at other players and we are left with our pants around our ankles.

Set the price, someone meets it, execute the trade. Don’t mess around.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Nope, sorry.



Flames Target? No. Required salary going back to facilitate a deal, yes.




Oh my lord, are you drunk at 1pm?

Settle down. We’re all just speculating here. My thought was Ratu in exchange for Zadorov - inflated price due to trading to a rival within the division. The 1st and 2nd round picks I proposed for taking Myers back as a salary dump (similar to the return for dumping Monahan to Montrea)l… but I just looked and he’s a UFA at the end of this year anyways so you wouldn’t get much for taking him back as cap relief. I had thought he still had at least one more year on his deal after this one. Would probably have to be Garland as the salary dump instead. Not sure what his salary dump costs… he has longer term but lower AAV.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Hell of a price to pay to dump less than a year of Tyler Myers.

If I’m not mistaken, he’s been playing well this year in a limited role compared to previous years. Not sure they’re that desperate to move him.

True. Thought he had one more year left after this one. But he’s a UFA in the summer. Wouldn’t be worth anything for them to dump his salary.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Good luck dumping a horrible contract and getting cap flexibility and defensive upgrade without giving up prime assets. Beauvillier was at least a pending free agent but no one takes Garland without a massive sweetener.

Canucks are no longer looking to move Garland and Garland's agent is no longer contacting teams about a move, so that's fine. With the Beauvillier trade, the Canucks got the flexibility they needed.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Canucks are no longer looking to move Garland and Garland's agent is no longer contacting teams about a move, so that's fine. With the Beauvillier trade, the Canucks got the flexibility they needed.

Probably because they all realize the best path forward is for him to hopefully contribute to a successful season and maybe he has value in the offseason.

The old "Nobody actually wants you on your contract, and we don't want to pay to have to move you, so let's just try to make this work together" situation.

I actually like Garland but it's just how the market is for smallish wingers.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Probably because they all realize the best path forward is for him to hopefully contribute to a successful season and maybe he has value in the offseason.



The old "Nobody actually wants you on your contract, and we don't want to pay to have to move you, so let's just try to make this work together" situation.



I actually like Garland but it's just how the market is for smallish wingers.

More accurately, he's been one of the team's most consistent player and a major part of the bottom six's effectiveness.

Winning makes him not want to leave.

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[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Eww that would be worse than the return for Tkachuk. (For where this organization is - no need for DeBrincat who is a UFA in 3 seasons and wanted no part of signing in Canada with Ottawa).

Obvious joke trade is obvious.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

More accurately, he's been one of the team's most consistent player and a major part of the bottom six's effectiveness.

Winning makes him not want to leave.

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With smallish players it's, unfortunately, really a situation of what have you done for me lately. The Canucks are exploding offensively and Garland has 7 points in 23 games.

Also 5'10''? Maybe with skates on?

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by blankall

With smallish players it's, unfortunately, really a situation of what have you done for me lately. The Canucks are exploding offensively and Garland has 7 points in 23 games.



Also 5'10''? Maybe with skates on?

It's more than points. He's probably the team's best forechecker. If Teddy Bleuger had finish, he'd have 5 or 6 more points though

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[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by blankall

With smallish players it's, unfortunately, really a situation of what have you done for me lately. The Canucks are exploding offensively and Garland has 7 points in 23 games.

Also 5'10''? Maybe with skates on?

And Blaster would tell you he is tough as nails, a sandpaper guy. Like a Sam Bennett if you will.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

More accurately, he's been one of the team's most consistent player and a major part of the bottom six's effectiveness.

Winning makes him not want to leave.

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I'll let you believe that if you want.

I'm sure the team is stoked about his 7 points in 23 games, and I'm sure he's stoked about averaging 13:00 minutes a night.

His underlying stats are great, but Beauvillier's were pretty good too and he was just traded for a 5th round pick. (Beauvillier also happened to have more points and was playing a higher TOI per game than Garland, so at the very least the coach thought he was just as big a part of that bottom 6).

I feel like if they got offered even a 3rd round pick for him he'd be gone, problem is teams likely want a sweetener back to take him with the 2 extra years on his deal.

All parties realized this was the only path forward for them, not some sudden change of heart because they all suddenly became happy with one another.

(And I say this as somebody who would easily take Garland for a 3rd if I had the cap space, even with 2 years left. I think he would actually work well with Huberdeau.)

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Kiprusoff was traded for a 2nd. I'd take a 2nd for Vladar. Some team gets the next Kiprusoff, and we get the next Marc Edouard Vlasic.

Why would you want this as a Flames fan?

[HighLifeMan]

I wonder if Columbus would entertain a Ruzicka or Dube for Boqvist swap.

We are starting to have an overabundance of forward depth and don't have much signed beyond this year on the backend.

That's a young kid who's only got into 9 games this year and could have a shot at running our PP.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

I wonder if Columbus would entertain a Ruzicka or Dube for Boqvist swap.

We are starting to have an overabundance of forward depth and don't have much signed beyond this year on the backend.

That's a young kid who's only got into 9 games this year and could have a shot at running our PP.

I like this idea. Boqvist would be a good add to our PP and should be a cheap pick up.

With Provorov, Serverson and Jiricek added this year, just don't see Boqvist getting much time in Columbus.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I wouldn't be opposed to giving Boqvist a crack but pretty much he's developed exactly as some feared, if not worse.
He was thought to be a offensive dman who can't defend.
Turns out he's mediocre offensive dman, who can't defend.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I’d rather Bean than Boqvist. Or Cuelemans for the future.