Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Fair enough “communication official”

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/edmont...77186.amp.html

I’m just pointing it out because it’s a massive difference. I know you probably don’t have much knowledge about how Unions operate but what you originally posted would be like someone saying one of Smith’s campaign strategists is the Premier.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Muta

There are two types of people who usually advance vote - angry old stock conservative seniors who like to stick it to today’s youth and anything progressive, and policy wonks / political nerds who stand on the soapbox at Mac Hall and shout words that nobody listens to.

It's more than that now. I advance voted because there's a polling station right by my workplace and the one near my house is farther and I'm working Monday. I think more and more people are finding the convenience of advance voting for the provincial election because you can vote in any polling station. For the federal, it's a bit more restricted, you have to vote in your riding still.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Muta

There are two types of people who usually advance vote - angry old stock conservative seniors who like to stick it to today’s youth and anything progressive, and policy wonks / political nerds who stand on the soapbox at Mac Hall and shout words that nobody listens to.

Seems like a pretty outdated take. I suspect a majority of people are like me, who just likes the convenience of advance voting on the weekend instead of taking time during the actual day when I have to work. In and out in 10 min, no lines. I mean really, it's two days in advance for me. How much is my decision gonna change from now to Tuesday?

[Reggie Dunlop]

Advance voting is great for working parents and shift workers.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Yoho

So far it looks like 200-1 for NDP on Calgary Puck.

You need to go back to your Calgary Sun/Youtube stomping grounds.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Advance voting is great for working parents and shift workers.

Great all around for everyone work from home just drop in quickly during a break etc.

Really removes that last second anxiety of waiting in line although I don't think I've ever had to wait in a long line. Just the last federal election when they sent me to some jungle with no parking to vote.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Advance voting is great for working parents and shift workers.

Or anyone. Partner and I advanced voted this morning, done in under two minutes. She became a Canadian citizen last year so was anxious/nervous about it.

+2 NDP

[MegaErtz]

I love the option of advance voting. I'm going to go and vote later today. I'd rather do it now, on a nice, relaxing Saturday afternoon, rather than worry about traffic and lines after work on Monday.

[MoneyGuy]

Bit my lip and voted yesterday for the NDP. I’m friends with the NDP and UCP candidates. Although I’m talking to many people who are saying they’re voting NDP because the UCP and Smith are as scary as hell, our riding is 80% likely to go to the UCP.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Sorry I missed that list of 400 things

What post was it in?

Sorry took a bit to find it.

In my opinion not all of these things are going to been universally seen as bad, and many of them overlap so much that it kind of dilutes the point being made with big numbers. But it does speak to the fact that NDP supporters have very real complaints while UPC supports just vaguely claim that the NDP was bad for them last time, without being able to point to any specific examples.

Originally Posted by cral12

Is there any such list for Danielle Smith's "record" (or whatever other better descriptor one may use) alone?

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Also probably a decent place to repost the ultimate spreadsheet list of >400 UCP missteps:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...z2M/edit#gid=0

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Bit my lip and voted yesterday for the NDP. I’m friends with the NDP and UCP candidates. Although I’m talking to many people who are saying they’re voting NDP because the UCP and Smith are as scary as hell, our riding is 80% likely to go to the UCP.

I've voted the NDP twice in my life and even though it was Kenney on the ballot the first time it was pretty hard to do. This time was a lot easier but still... I never thought I would ever vote NDP in my lifetime.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Mainstreet tracker is at UCP+2.2, very little change from yesterday.

https://twitter.com/MainStResearch/s...35390929248256

Still waiting for the Calgary-only sample and the riding-level polls that Quito Maggi keeps talking about.

[kermitology]

I finally answered a call from what turned out to be Mainstreet asking who I’m voting for. I said I can’t vote.

They’d called me 5 times in the past week, and I always ignored it.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Mainstreet tracker is at UCP+2.2, very little change from yesterday.

https://twitter.com/MainStResearch/s...35390929248256

Still waiting for the Calgary-only sample and the riding-level polls that Quito Maggi keeps talking about.

Is this Quito guy trying to scare UCP supporters to vote by putting out fake numbers?

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Is this Quito guy trying to scare UCP supporters to vote by putting out fake numbers?

I don’t know, but honestly I think pollsters should avoid pontificating about election results too much. I find it a bit unseemly. Polls aren’t a prediction of the future anyway, they’re a snapshot in time that gives a sense of what voters are thinking on the day that they are polled. And they are subject both to sampling error and occasionally sampling bias that isn’t clear until after the election. We saw that in polls when Obama was first elected that didn’t call cell phone lines (because younger and more educated people were less likely to have land lines but more likely to vote for Obama, so leaving them out of the sample tended to skew the results).

That’s not to say they’re useless or anything but when pollsters start to say things like “this is how I predict the election will go in a week based on data I collected yesterday” I think they’ve forgotten the purpose of their tool and gone a bit astray scientifically. Just my two cents.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I don’t know, but honestly I think pollsters should avoid pontificating about election results too much. I find it a bit unseemly. Polls aren’t a prediction of the future anyway, they’re a snapshot in time that gives a sense of what voters are thinking on the day that they are polled. And they are subject both to sampling error and occasionally sampling bias that isn’t clear until after the election. We saw that in polls when Obama was first elected that didn’t call cell phone lines (because younger and more educated people were less likely to have land lines but more likely to vote for Obama, so leaving them out of the sample tended to skew the results).

That’s not to say they’re useless or anything but when pollsters start to say things like “this is how I predict the election will go in a week based on data I collected yesterday” I think they’ve forgotten the purpose of their tool and gone a bit astray scientifically. Just my two cents.

Yeah, there's a bunch of Ontario pollsters cockily shouting on Twitter that it's over too and that UCP win in a cake walk. On their pod they said the NDP had to win "Camrose" to take Banff-Kananaskis tho soooo.

It sounds like their models basically look at 2019 as baseline and then modify based on polls. To me that seems a bit flawed based on not understanding the nature of the 2019 election.

Only poll that counts is on Monday. It is very close and pretty much a statistical tie. Don't get cocky on either side imo.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Mainstreet tracker is at UCP+2.2, very little change from yesterday.

https://twitter.com/MainStResearch/s...35390929248256

Still waiting for the Calgary-only sample and the riding-level polls that Quito Maggi keeps talking about.

Looks like you have to be a subscriber, if you really want to know pony up the $5.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1662549233382338560

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1662569689875382272

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I live in Pawlowski's riding, so it gave me some extra satisfaction to vote against him AND the UCP.

Dude lives in Killarney (Calgary-Currie). Can't even vote for himself. Just his dopey brother.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Seems like a pretty outdated take. I suspect a majority of people are like me, who just likes the convenience of advance voting on the weekend instead of taking time during the actual day when I have to work. In and out in 10 min, no lines. I mean really, it's two days in advance for me. How much is my decision gonna change from now to Tuesday?

You didn’t catch my second post I see.