[GT] Canada Election 2025

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Ben Mulroney is 100% going to be involved in the next CPC leadership race.

I always thought Brian Mulroney's daughter seemed decent and was on that track at one point, but then she just kind of disappeared. I wonder what happened.

I don't know anything about Ben Mulroney except when he was on ET Canada or whatever that show was. Is it safe to assume he is a progressive conservative?

Funnily enough, Ben Mulroney and Justin Trudeau are apparently really good friends. Which makes sense because they are only 4 years apart and would have been in a lot of the same circles growing up in Ottawa. There are a few pictures of them online hanging out as young adults and they looked close. He was also a noted guest at Justin Trudeau's wedding.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by calumniate

I wonder what Yoho thinks of all of this

I'm wondering what happened to Azure.

I've licked so many boots in the past little while and he's the only one that would be interested in hearing about it!

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Initially it was Torquedog who said “Alberta always votes blue”. I have shown through Edmonton and the 2015 election where the NDP won every seat by popular vote that his statement was false. Calgary also elected a majority of NDP officials, though this was due to vote splitting. I have also acknowledged multiple times that rural Alberta will always vote conservative.

Blanket statements like “Albertans will vote blue no matter what” are inaccurate and play into the trope of western rednecks which simply isn’t true. With Albertas low number of ridings it isn’t worth it for parties to invest resources to flip a low number of seats.

One provincial election ... in 44 years. Federally... yeah, the western redneck trope seems to be hard-won.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I always thought Brian Mulroney's daughter seemed decent and was on that track at one point, but then she just kind of disappeared. I wonder what happened.

I don't know anything about Ben Mulroney except when he was on ET Canada or whatever that show was. Is it safe to assume he is a progressive conservative?

Funnily enough, Ben Mulroney and Justin Trudeau are apparently really good friends. Which makes sense because they are only 4 years apart and would have been in a lot of the same circles growing up in Ottawa. There are a few pictures of them online hanging out as young adults and they looked close. He was also a noted guest at Justin Trudeau's wedding.

Ah, no. He's turned waaay right. He's a Pierre Con now.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Muta

Listened to Ben Mulroney's radio show for five minutes driving work today (before I couldn't listen anymore); with the amount of whining and complaining and raging from conservative callers today, you'd think the Earth is about to go through an imminent nuclear apocalypse.

Some of these conservatives need to calm their tits a bit, geezus christ; turn off the media, go touch some grass, and remember that we live in one of the best countries in the world with some of highest standards of living on the planet. Things will be fine lol.

My father has always been conservative; but since retirement he has filled much of his free time in the RW echo chamber. First was Danielle Smith radio, and now he is an active poster on Twitter.

He will spend a couple hours going through Twitter and works himself into a fuss about something.

Last night, i sent a picture to my family group chat with PP losing his riding, which i rightfully think is funny - especially given the party claimed 145 seats elsewhere.

My mom texted me this morning and told me not to send anything to him today. He has been seething mad all day.

I've told him a thousand times he needs to get off twitter and go find something to do; because its not healthy. Doesn't listen.

He's not MAGA, but I am worried he is on his way there, which makes it tougher to be around. He's stopped brining up politics around us for the most part because we just ignore it; but there are usually a few snipes in our group chat.

He also believes that university indoctrinated me; which is pretty funny because i was a pretty staunch conservative until the Harper/Trudeau election where I, like many sat in poltical no-man's land.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't know anything about Ben Mulroney except when he was on ET Canada or whatever that show was. Is it safe to assume he is a progressive conservative?
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I don't think so

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I always thought Brian Mulroney's daughter seemed decent and was on that track at one point, but then she just kind of disappeared. I wonder what happened.

I don't know anything about Ben Mulroney except when he was on ET Canada or whatever that show was. Is it safe to assume he is a progressive conservative?

Funnily enough, Ben Mulroney and Justin Trudeau are apparently really good friends. Which makes sense because they are only 4 years apart and would have been in a lot of the same circles growing up in Ottawa. There are a few pictures of them online hanging out as young adults and they looked close. He was also a noted guest at Justin Trudeau's wedding.

Ben Mulroney is insufferable in his show for sure. Talks a lot about MAGA politics, as well.

Found a way to stay relevant i guess.

His sister is very smart and capable. She did run for the Cons in Ontario last leadership race i believe, before losing to the populist right.

[Josh]

I wish there was an understanding that steady and measured leadership that unites is needed at this time of crisis. The conservatives may have been the right fit to balance out some of the failed policies of the LPC (immigration comes to mind here) but the game has completely changed.

Pierre Poilievre's brand of rage bait isn't what the moment needs and really just further divides us all. It was especially telling to see that he lost his riding (Carlton). I really do hope that the CPC takes a look at what makes a great leader. The ability to unite rather than harnessing rage and dividing makes a great leader, I really do believe that's why the LPC won yesterday. I really do hope that both the LPC and CPC can work together as Canadians through this crisis

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

It's insane to me that people are criticizing Carney for being good at his job before he entered politics

Talk about reductive. No one is criticizing him for his competence. It’s his willingness to do something that goes against the public interest of the people of Canada. If he ran for the CPC people would be all over him for that. It’s not a huge deal but it does mean that he needs to have his feet held to the fire by his supporters to guarantee he doesn’t do anything that only helps big business. Full stop.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Only stupid lemmings for PP and Singh would ever criticize him. lol

What a stupid talking point. Downinflames prob has Brookfield in his mutual funds just like half the Conservative leadership.

#### off. You forgot to call me a deplorable you one trick pony.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Only stupid lemmings for PP and Singh would ever criticize him. lol

What a stupid talking point. Downinflames prob has Brookfield in his mutual funds just like half the Conservative leadership.

There are plenty of things to be critical of Carney for. Only a lemming would think any political leader is above reproach.

[keratosis]

Originally Posted by Yanda

Devestating loss tonight. Would like to see a strong Alberta party form, no point in voting Con with the current electral collage. Pathetic that the vote can be called before Alberta polls even close.

Canada doesn't have an electoral college.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by keratosis

Canada doesn't have an electoral college.

No no, they very clearly said "electral collage", they just spelled electrical wrong.

[Drak]

Or did they mean electrical collagen, some sort of skin care treatment?

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

One provincial election ... in 44 years. Federally... yeah, the western redneck trope seems to be hard-won.

You said it couldn’t be done, I used a recent example to prove you wrong. I’m scratching my head here at how any of this would be confusing. I dont think it’s appropriate to label an entire province like that, and it also does nothing to change that stereotype either.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by nik-

BQ being in a coalition would basically 100% kill any chance of oil infrastructure going east. In a vacuum it sucks that after the last 10 years the Liberals get to form government again, but we're not in a vacuum and PP is potentially one of the worst politicians I've ever seen at being able to see public sentiment.

I hope that this dramatic swing to a loss kills culture war politics as a path going forward, but I'm not optimistic.

But if Carney comes up with a plan that the cons can support, it will pass easily. Then it would be time for the cons to put up or shut up (Unlikely, I know). Carney has shown how he can maneuver around his opponents already with the carbon tax.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by calumniate

I wonder what Yoho thinks of all of this

Uh, that would imply that Yoho thinks, and thus far, there's been no evidence of that.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

I am going be very curious to see who Carney includes in his cabinet as it would be an early indication if he truly is about unity.

For example, if he puts Guilbeault back anywhere near Energy, Natural Resources or the Environment files that would be a giant FU to Alberta.

And what the size of his cabinet is. Ideally it's small, close to the size of his current cabinet (24) than the bloated 39 from before.

One other thing to keep in mind is the Speaker needs to come from somewhere. If they are Liberal then that is one less Liberal caucus member. Maybe the smart play for Carney is to nominate an NDP member to the position.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by getbak

Who are the Bloc more aligned with? Depending on how the numbers fall, could the CPC and BQ try to work together to form a coalition?

The Bloc is most aligned with the Bloc. Whatever works best for them is what works.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

You said it couldn’t be done, I used a recent example to prove you wrong. I’m scratching my head here at how any of this would be confusing. I dont think it’s appropriate to label an entire province like that, and it also does nothing to change that stereotype either.

Since that one-off in a provincial election, which I've already acknowledged is the exception, Alberta has put into power two of the worst provincial governments we've ever had, and has handed over all but 3 of our 37 federal seats -- most of which were by very healthy double-digit margins including in the cities -- to the same federal party we always do.

Scratch your head all you want, I'm right there with you in terms of how to fix a province that wants to 'vote for change' by voting the same way it always does. I don't need to label the province when it seems we have way too many people happy to vote for the Bloc Rednecois over and over.