EI premiums are still well below (about 13% lower) they were when the Liberals came into power and about 40% lower than they were 25 years ago, so I don't really understand that. Particularly given that the increase in premiums for 2023 represents about $50/year (assuming you earn enough to max out EI contributions).
What does benefit payout/utilization look like over those time frames?
I think they're relevant enough to have the party considering if JT should be leading them into the next election.
You have to think a lot of internal discussions are going on about leadership.
Blackface should have been booted years ago! One of the worst PMs ever! but he is still better than the pathetic garbage the Cons trot out.
He still isn't going to lose to Pierre no matter what these polls say.
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Sorry no. History says no PM has won 4 terms, and JT will not be the first. I missed that 4th election.
Edit Wilfred Laurier won 4 terms in 1908.
Thirty seconds of Google searching would have shown you that you're wrong about this. In addition to Wilfred Laurier, you also forgot about:
John A. MacDonald who won six elections (1867, 1872, 1878, 1882, 1887, 1891). The Liberals under Alexander Mackenzie won one election in 1874 to break up MacDonald's streak.
Mackenzie King who won six elections (1921, 1925, 1926, 1935, 1940, 1945), although there was a one-term Conservative government between King's third and fourth election victories. Following King's retirement, his Liberal Party also won the next two elections under leader Louis St-Laurent (1949, 1953).
Pierre Trudeau who won four elections (1968, 1972, 1974, 1980) with a one-year break in 1979 during which Conservative Joe Clark led a short-lived minority government. Prior to Trudeau, the Liberals had also won the previous two elections with leader Lester Pearson (1963, 1965).
Yeah man, that extra $1.92 I pay to EI every paycheque is really making inflation run rampant.
If it did have an effect it would be deflationary. If you take away spending to pay debt you decrease money supply. Tax cuts are inflationary, tax hikes are deflationary. The opposite occurs with government spending.
Tax hikes, not cut taxes. I might be wrong but I'm assuming this primarily refers to rolling back the increases this year in EI and CPP contributions.
That would be short-sighted and dumb. The same way Trudeau rolling back the retirement age after Harper (wisely) raised it was short-sighted and dumb.
This is why I’m becoming pessimistic about the future of governance in this country. Important programs and reforms need to be sustained for decades to be effective. But we’re abandoning our history of moderation and prudence in favour of American-style tit-for-tat partisanship.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
Thirty seconds of Google searching would have shown you that you're wrong about this. In addition to Wilfred Laurier, you also forgot about:
John A. MacDonald who won six elections (1867, 1872, 1878, 1882, 1887, 1891). The Liberals under Alexander Mackenzie won one election in 1874 to break up MacDonald's streak.
Mackenzie King who won six elections (1921, 1925, 1926, 1935, 1940, 1945), although there was a one-term Conservative government between King's third and fourth election victories. Following King's retirement, his Liberal Party also won the next two elections under leader Louis St-Laurent (1949, 1953).
Pierre Trudeau who won four elections (1968, 1972, 1974, 1980) with a one-year break in 1979 during which Conservative Joe Clark led a short-lived minority government. Prior to Trudeau, the Liberals had also won the previous two elections with leader Lester Pearson (1963, 1965).
Hopefully we get to find out if it works. Because what we have now definitely isn’t working.
Find out if that works?
You stated that your concern was for people to be able to feed their loved ones.
There’s nothing in this plan that lowers the actual cost of food. Really simple math suggests that if someone can’t currently afford food then they’re going to continue not being able to afford food so long as the cost remains the same.
The tax cuts they are suggesting offer no guarantee of increasing affordability at a rate that would outpace inflation and any hypothetical resulting benefits would be disproportionately higher for those who need it the least. In many cases those cuts won’t actually provide any benefit to those who need it the most. The fact that the CPC actually state that their plan will “stop” (their words) inflation should be a red flag for voters.
When did I say that your “behaviour” hurt me and in what world should that be a prerequisite for calling it out?
Find out if that works?
You stated that your concern was for people to be able to feed their loved ones.
There’s nothing in this plan that lowers the actual cost of food. Really simple math suggests that if someone can’t currently afford food then they’re going to continue not being able to afford food so long as the cost remains the same.
The tax cuts they are suggesting offer no guarantee of increasing affordability at a rate that would outpace inflation and any hypothetical resulting benefits would be disproportionately higher for those who need it the least. In many cases those cuts won’t actually provide any benefit to those who need it the most. The fact that the CPC actually state that their plan will “stop” (their words) inflation should be a red flag for voters.
So your ok with the way things are going now with food prices?
1. You didn't say that. Your post said, "History says no PM has won 4 terms".
2. Even after you moved the goal posts, you're still wrong. John A. MacDonald won four elections in a row (1878, 1882, 1887, 1891).
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1. You didn't say that. Your post said, "History says no PM has won 4 terms".
2. Even after you moved the goal posts, you're still wrong. John A. MacDonald won four elections in a row (1878, 1882, 1887, 1891).
Sorry I thought it was implied doing 4 straight terms is very difficult for anyone in the last hundred years.
I’m not to concerned about the election. I’d just like to have a a main party with a leader who hasn’t disqualified themselves.
Though I do think the quote underestimates the midterm NDP flight that we have seen before.
That will only happen if the Liberals have a wide gap on the NDP. If it’s close - if Liberals support declines to 2011 levels - NDP supporters might see a chance to become the official opposition.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
Thirty seconds of Google searching would have shown you that you're wrong about this. In addition to Wilfred Laurier, you also forgot about:
John A. MacDonald who won six elections (1867, 1872, 1878, 1882, 1887, 1891). The Liberals under Alexander Mackenzie won one election in 1874 to break up MacDonald's streak.
Mackenzie King who won six elections (1921, 1925, 1926, 1935, 1940, 1945), although there was a one-term Conservative government between King's third and fourth election victories. Following King's retirement, his Liberal Party also won the next two elections under leader Louis St-Laurent (1949, 1953).
Pierre Trudeau who won four elections (1968, 1972, 1974, 1980) with a one-year break in 1979 during which Conservative Joe Clark led a short-lived minority government. Prior to Trudeau, the Liberals had also won the previous two elections with leader Lester Pearson (1963, 1965).
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4 in a row.
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1. You didn't say that. Your post said, "History says no PM has won 4 terms".
2. Even after you moved the goal posts, you're still wrong. John A. MacDonald won four elections in a row (1878, 1882, 1887, 1891).
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Sorry I thought it was implied doing 4 straight terms is very difficult for anyone in the last hundred years.
This exchange sums up Yoho perfectly
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I’m living rent free in your head at this point. Nothing about that conversation was offside or outrageous.
It’s ok for undercoverbrother to say incorrectly JT has won 4 elections but if someone else’s misses a 4 elections in “a row” do this? Move on, find some other poster to focus on please you are wrecking this thread.
Focus on adding something about the topic not pointing your finger at posters.
