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Machiavelli · 02-20-2010, 09:22 PM

^ There is an intrinsic conflict of interest here but Babcock doesn't seem to have a problem with Getzlaf and Perry, whose Ducks are also battling the Wings for a playoff spot.

I'm not really sure what to think right now; I guess the coaches are seeing something that most of us aren't.

Igottago · 02-20-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CGY12

Iginla HAS to be hurt. Peter Maher said ealier today he thinks Iggy has a concussion. If this isn't the case Babcock could possibly be the dumbest person alive.

I think this is the closest thing to the truth. Iggy didn't look right after the hit, I personally believe he was/is hurt.

We can thank the player that made that idiotic suicide pass for this...I think it was Weber?

Henry Fool · 02-20-2010, 09:35 PM

Babcock has had his chance. It won't be long before the Crocodile performs a coup d'etat and establishes the Lemaire junta.

Sounds like maybe Babcock expects Iginla to be a type of player he hasn't been for a few years now. Ice time can also be a huge problem when you have an all-star caliber team. Everyone's used to playing over 20 minutes a game.

sa226 · 02-20-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CGY12

Iginla HAS to be hurt. Peter Maher said ealier today he thinks Iggy has a concussion. If this isn't the case Babcock could possibly be the dumbest person alive.

There is no way he has a concussion. If he did he wouldn't be dressing. You don't take chances with concussions.

I don't really think he is injured either because both Iginla and Babcock deinied that he was.

I just think they have lost their marbles.

I keep hoping that there is going to be some great retribution story where Iginla proves them all wrong and leads this team to a gold medal.......

But alas I think the only retribution we will see for Iginla was that Norway game where every had him penciled in on the fourth line but he storms out scoring a Hat Trick. That was great I was fist pumping with Flames pride.

and after all of that he still gets the shaft.

CGY12 · 02-20-2010, 10:19 PM

while Nash continues the free ride...

Huntingwhale · 02-20-2010, 11:32 PM

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He may not be what he used to but he can play on my team any day.

Agreed. I will take a "4th line role player Iginla" over any 4th liner any day of the week. Just goes to show the depth of team Canada in Jarmoe is on the 4th line.

Ark2 · 02-20-2010, 11:47 PM

So Jarome is the 13th forward now? What on earth does this guy have to do? The team looks sluggish playing Norway, getting few offensive chances and not really generating much in the way of pressure. Jarome comes in, scores a goal that sparks the rest of the team and ends up finishing the game with a hattrick (something that no other Canadian player has done in the Olympics since 1988). Babcock says that it's not Jarome's job to score goals. Fine. He gets put on the fourth line in the third period against the Swiss, where he throws some hits, cycles the puck and altogether puts up a strong gritty performance and is then promptly benched. Babcock even went so far after the game to say that Jarome looked sluggish, yet he feels that Bergeron has "been a good player for us". What is going on? I feel like this is an episode of the Twilight Zone and the coaching staff are just rewarding crappy performances while blaming Iggy for their shortcomings.

Hammertime · 02-21-2010, 12:03 AM

I would very much like Iginla to prove that he can conquer a little adversity and rise to the challenge.

Unfortunately, the past few seasons lead me to believe that this will not fire him up.

Ark2 · 02-21-2010, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammertime

I would very much like Iginla to prove that he can conquer a little adversity and rise to the challenge.

Unfortunately, the past few seasons lead me to believe that this will not fire him up.

Not sure how you can rise up when you're the 13th forward and likely to get no ice time.

CGY12 · 02-21-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammertime

I would very much like Iginla to prove that he can conquer a little adversity and rise to the challenge.

Unfortunately, the past few seasons lead me to believe that this will not fire him up.

This is based on what? Couple seasons ago he was 3rd in league scoring (50 goals) and scored 9 pts in a 7 game series against a way better team. Last year he recorded 89 pts good for 8th and had a bit of a disappointing playoffs but they just lost out to a better team. It takes a TEAM to win in the playoffs. Annoying people continue to take shots at the guy without taking a look at the numbers.

Caged Great · 02-21-2010, 12:29 AM

The reason why Team Canada will fail is having crappy defensive players on the 4th line. I can fully understand having 3 scoring lines, but you also need players that are specifically tailored to the defensive side of things.

Look at 02, they had Draper and Maltby out there shutting down the other team's best players. If they were to have had say Cleary and say Langkow, or some other defensively talented player on the 4th line with Morrow then they might have a chance, but as I see it now, the top lines of the opposing teams are going to have their way with Canada eventually, and while the scoring depth helps, it only matters if the competition doesn't have the same amount of talent.

I'm hoping Iginla is alright, but he really is not suited at all for 4th line duty. I mean he's one of the worst forwards on Calgary defensively.

Here's hoping that Canada proves me wrong, and that Iggy gets more ice time tomorrow.

Stocky · 02-21-2010, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by the_professsor

The players you listed above are either just as good (i.e Marleau) or better (Nash) than Iginla. I personally think Staal and Perry are better too but that's arguable.

Iginla does deserve a bit more ice time, but let's not kid ourselves, he isn't as elite as he was 3 years ago

No, but four years ago Iggy only had 67 points. The year he led us to the Cup-in his prime-he had 73 points, which he is on pace for this year.

I would agree that Jarome is not as elite as he was three years ago. But he is as elite as he was four years ago...even a little eliter. Just because he is a year older and having an off year, doesn't mean it is age related; it has happened in his prime as well. Jarome is eniginlamatic.

the-rasta-masta · 02-21-2010, 07:49 AM

Babcock is smarter than you are all giving him credit for. I think he is playing head games with Iggy, knowing it will fire him up. I bet you Iginla will come out and play his best game of the year today.

flames_1987 · 02-21-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Babcock is smarter than you are all giving him credit for. I think he is playing head games with Iggy, knowing it will fire him up. I bet you Iginla will come out and play his best game of the year today.

That will be tough to do with just over 7 minutes of ice time

Ark2 · 02-21-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Babcock is smarter than you are all giving him credit for. I think he is playing head games with Iggy, knowing it will fire him up. I bet you Iginla will come out and play his best game of the year today.

He isn't playing head games with Jarome. You don't demoralize a player that you barely know on the off chance that you think it could fire him up. This is the most important game of the round robin for Canada, and it looks like Iginla is poised to be the 13th forward. For whatever reason, Babcock does not think that Canada needs Jarome to win.

GirlySports · 02-21-2010, 11:19 AM

This is how the team was constructed. This was evident when watching the Hockey Powers behind the scenes show. Iginla is the 4th line guy or 13th forward.
That's why Bergeron was picked to play on Crosby's right wing, cause Iginla isn't good enough.

I seriously wanted to kill Yzerman after I watched that show.

FanIn80 · 02-21-2010, 11:25 AM

I don't know about anyone else, but these Olympics are starting to leave a real sour taste in my mouth. I know Iggy wouldn't agree, but I would rather just not even have him there at all then to see him get disrespected like this.

GirlySports · 02-21-2010, 11:28 AM

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I don't know about anyone else, but these Olympics are starting to leave a real sour taste in my mouth. I know Iggy wouldn't agree, but I would rather just not even have him there at all then to see him get disrespected like this.

If I was Iginla and Canada selected me to play on the 4th line. I would respectfully decline and stay home. Give my spot to a kid.

Ark2 · 02-21-2010, 11:29 AM

If Canada comes up short, then I think the whole Team Canada brass need to be axed. These guys have made some very unconventional decisions, and if they don't pay off, heads need to roll. No more Yzerman, Babcock, Holland and especially no more Lowe. How that man is still anywhere near anything hockey related is beyond me.

burning_acid1 · 02-21-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

I think this is the closest thing to the truth. Iggy didn't look right after the hit, I personally believe he was/is hurt.

We can thank the player that made that idiotic suicide pass for this...I think it was Weber?

Weber also fired one right at Heatley's biceps