Apparently Iginla sucks......

[J epworth]

http://www.examiner.com/x-25609-Calg...uish-the-Swiss

I still haven't found one article that is criticizing Babcock for is terrible coaching, yet they are just saying that Igina's legs are a year older than his body apparently, and since he didn't get six shots on net he played bad.

[GreenLantern]

Not sure if I have ever heard of this writer before.. I don't read a lot of articles but who is he?


Oh ya and he is totally right, Iginla sucks etc.. etc.. don't play him, keep him benched etc.. etc.. piss him off real good and keep him rested/healthy.. etc.. etc..

[burn_this_city]

What a terrible article.
No mention of the headshot.

[CaptainCrunch]

That fata$$ wouldn't know effective hockey if it ran him over in the crease.

[burn_baby_burn]

You can't argue about his play slipping this season with the Flames. Outside of November.

[J epworth]

Here's another that says basically the same thing, just this time useless vancouver media

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Ba...014/story.html

[CokeMachineGlow]

was the article wrong? has iginla not done the same thing here in clagary for entire stretches of games? i love our captain but anyone who thinks this is iginla from 06 or before is kidding themselves

[Flame19,289]

These are quotes from an NHL.com article after the game against Norway, but I think they are worth pointing out after the game against the Swiss...

Iginla:

"Part of playing for Team Canada is being ready to do whatever role is asked, whether it's being on an energy line or whether it's a chance to be on the PP," Iginla said diplomatically. "You get to play in all different combinations and guys you admire around the League. I imagine the lines will still change a lot, but we're ready as a group for whatever Mike decides."

Babcock:

Babcock said he told Iginla before the game that he wants him to use his size as an asset. He didn't need it on his goals, but he otherwise used his size, as did Nash. Crosby gets freed up to make plays when he's got such big bodies as linemates.

"We need (Iginla) to be a physical presence for us, to be really hard to play against," Babcock said. "He doesn't need to score to help us, but obviously he did tonight. But, that's what we're looking for..."

"They're all high-end guys, but they're used to playing 21 minutes and if you look down and they have 13 next to their name or 14, it's hard for them," Babcock said. "Our group has to understand that they are all going to play, but we have to get the tempo way higher."

[AltaGuy]

Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

Here's another that says basically the same thing, just this time useless vancouver media

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Ba...014/story.html

Thing that bothers me there: "his lack of performance". Really? Where was that?

I definitely didn't see Iggy playing worse (nor better) than most of the rest of the team. And he definitely did some positive things too.

[tripin_billie]

Oh, about the tag for this thread, "useless Toronto media"

Well...

From the author's bio:

James Duplacey is the author of over 50 books on sport and culture... and currently resides in Calgary, Alberta. You can reach him at...

So, even though he seems out to lunch on this one, he isn't the Toronto media specter that so many Calgarians think is out to get them.

[mykalberta]

Apparently he has a twitter account. FlamesPuck.

I say we spam the shat out of him. I would even sign into twitter for this.

[bubbsy]

what an idiot.

nuff said.

[nwflamesfan]

Is this the same guy? Is that a pic of him as the friendly giant?

http://www.jacketflap.com/profile.asp?member=JJHPAA

[sa226]

Originally Posted by Flame19,289

These are quotes from an NHL.com article after the game against Norway, but I think they are worth pointing out after the game against the Swiss...

Iginla:


Babcock:

Its interesting how things can be taken out of context. Its still really difficult to tell what their intentions are but from Babcock's quote, its almost like he was complementing Iginla.

He says the team doesn't need Iginla to score in order to help the team. Which can mean that he can help the team in many other ways not just scoring.

On the other hand you have a player like Heatly, his job is to score goals, because he can't really do anything else.

I think Iginla and Babcock need to get on the same page. I think Babcock wants Iginla to be the Holmstrom to Crosbys and Nashs, Datsyuk and Zetterberg. He wants Iginla to play a certain way regardless of what line he was playing. Maybe Babcocks opinion was that Iginla change the way he played once he played with Crosby (I do remember one shift last night where Iginla left the zone too early, Babcock probably didn't like that)

So Instead of leaving Iginla up there he replaced him with players he felt were going to do the job asked of them (Toews, Bergeron, Richards)

Even though I understand the reasoning, Babcock needs to realize this isn't Holmstrom, Franzen, Morrow or whoever. This is Jarome Iginla, he is first and formost a power forward, but he can do so much more, rather than just creat space for Sidney Crosby. He has made a heck of a living carrying a team with no one to create space for him.

After thinking about it I am less confused but still pissed off, because Iginla deserves more than he is getting.

Based on the reasoning above, I do believe Iginla will get a chance again to be an impact player, and if Iginla's career is any indication he won't waste it and Team Canada will hopefully be better for it.

If I am completely wrong and Iginla barely gets a sniff the rest of the tourney, then the brass is off their rocker putting the hopes of the country in the hands of Perry, Nash, Staal and Marleau ahead of Iginla

[redforever]

Time in and time out, Iggy himself sets the bar and shows how to deal with situations diplomatically, instead of displaying bipolar behaviour.

That is an asset that would benefit each and everyone of us.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by Babcock

"We need (Iginla) to be a physical presence for us, to be really hard to play against," Babcock said. "He doesn't need to score to help us, but obviously he did tonight. But, that's what we're looking for..."

I'm not entirely sure how replacing Iginla with Toews did anything to improve this...

[Smell My Finger]

One thing that is certain if Canada were to have lost that shoot out. Nobody could put even 1% of blame on Iginla.
3 shifts in the 2nd 1 shift in the 3rd. No shifts in OT.
What I really don't get by Babcocks stupidity is Iginla was not on the ice for any of the GA. Iginla did not have any bad turnovers.
Bergeron or Toews created no scoring chances for Crosby or Nash. So why did he keep forcing that Jokinen line combo on Crosby and Nash.
B Sutter is that you? Please remove the rubber Babcock mask

[the_professsor]

Originally Posted by sa226

If I am completely wrong and Iginla barely gets a sniff the rest of the tourney, then the brass is off their rocker putting the hopes of the country in the hands of Perry, Nash, Staal and Marleau ahead of Iginla

The players you listed above are either just as good (i.e Marleau) or better (Nash) than Iginla. I personally think Staal and Perry are better too but that's arguable.

Iginla does deserve a bit more ice time, but let's not kid ourselves, he isn't as elite as he was 3 years ago

[Rifleman]

The defence in that Swiss game was horrible. Definitely not what I was expecting from that group. Whether it was due to the forwards not coming back far enough and expecting only a good long stretch pass, or the Swiss players playing a fast, tenacious forecheck, or the collective group just shatting the bed all at once, I'll never know, but the D yesterday made me think they should've went with Mark Giordano as their 6th.

As for the forwards, I think they played alright.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by the_professsor

The players you listed above are either just as good (i.e Marleau) or better (Nash) than Iginla. I personally think Staal and Perry are better too but that's arguable.

Iginla does deserve a bit more ice time, but let's not kid ourselves, he isn't as elite as he was 3 years ago

Yea he isn't elite finishing 8th in league scoring last year and 3rd the year before. Yes we get it he isn't having a dominant year but he has proven a hell of a lot more than both Marleau and Nash and if you even WATCHED the game last night you would realize his benching was complete BS. He sat on the bench while the Perry- Staal - Getzlaf line went out there and continued to turn the puck over.