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Mayer · 02-19-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Babcock coaches a 10th place team. I wouldn't put a ton of stock in his hockey opinions.

That isn't serious, is it?

I have to say, after reading that article, I like Iginla more.

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"There's a lot of line combinations for Mike [coach Babcock] and I'll be ready for whatever he calls."

He may not be what he used to but he can play on my team any day.

Kaine · 02-19-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayer

That isn't serious, is it?

I have to say, after reading that article, I like Iginla more.

He may not be what he used to but he can play on my team any day.

That's Iggy for ya, regardless of what he is being dealt he will be there with 100% effort and a big grin on his face, a true ambassador to the game.

In situations like this I almost wish he would lose it and tell them all where to go, then again I'm a bit of a... well never mind

Smell My Finger · 02-19-2010, 05:09 PM

Fry · 02-19-2010, 07:40 PM

It sure does look like Babcock is treating Iginla like his personal whipping boy, from hero to zero.

Crosby and Nash equally sucked as much as Iginla but stayed out there. Toews comes in, does absolutely nothing and stays up there. Not saying to keep Iggy there but it your going to bench ineffective players then heatly would have a busy night. Really should have thought about Crosby and Heatly. I know Marleau scored but was he ever invisible, atleast you noticed Thorton turning the puck over consistently.

All homerism aside, NOBODY stepped up after the Swiss tied it up. Would Iginla made a difference, I doubt it the way the team was playing but since he was so quick to change Iginla why stick with others that aren't working? Why give the ducks so much time? Why did Nash play the game, looked like he thought it was figure skating, dipsy-doodling and losing the puck.

Feel for Doughty, since he was molested at the blue line and Marty let in a goal he should of had. It was Doughty's fault but Pronger and Niedimeyer screwed up way more than the kid did and munched the mins. What happened with Seabrook?

Personally I don't care if Canada wins or not but if team Canada loses against US and Iggy gets 3min of ice while Toews, Getzlaf, Perry and Staal are out there non-stop it would be the biggest coaching blunder since Crawford/Gretzky.

robocop · 02-20-2010, 01:05 AM

it's funny how much the coaches try to control the players without ever giving the players a chance to adapt to situations on their own and come up with their own plays. Babcock can go to hell for not putting Iggy on with Crosby and letting them go to town, these are two of the most talented hockey players in the world and he doesn't let them win by being creative and aggressive. Sometimes coaches lose sight of things and take a stranglehold on the team and take the competitive edge out of the players because they get punished for not adhering to strict guidelines on how to play. Sorry Babcock, but I think if you give them atleast some credit they will be able to play on a little heart and desire and win as opposed to ting all over them for not doing exactly what you say.

minnow · 02-20-2010, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Flame19,289

These are quotes from an NHL.com article after the game against Norway, but I think they are worth pointing out after the game against the Swiss...

Iginla:

Babcock:

When I read the quote from Bubcock about Iginla using his size, I thought it was pretty funny. He's a big enough guy, but not a monster, 6'1, 205/7 lbs. It's not like he's Nash or Getz or Pronger. He's always played "bigger" though.

minnow · 02-20-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaine

That's Iggy for ya, regardless of what he is being dealt he will be there with 100% effort and a big grin on his face, a true ambassador to the game.

In situations like this I almost wish he would lose it and tell them all where to go, then again I'm a bit of a... well never mind

I hope Iggy (after he retires) writes a book, detailing all the assinine things said and done to him throughout his career. It'd make good reading. Sometimes he almost seems to be too much of a team player, always smoothing things over, settling the press down, saying the coach is right, etc. It ticks me OFF !

Iggy Snipe · 02-20-2010, 05:27 PM

What a joke article. All it did was beak Iginla. they obviously forgot to mention Iginla did not get the chance the play a lot, because Babcock chose NOT to play Iginla. He was not getting any icetime before he got hit either. Or against Norway. He still scored 3 goals though, and looked great with Crosby as he set Crosby up twice for two scoring chances then was promptly sat for most of the game. Then Crosby did NOTHING all game, until he was given TWO chances to score in the shoot-out and was called the hero which is not true. Brodeur should have been called the hero was stopping every shooter. Whatever, Iginla is going to kick ass whenhe comes back to Calgary and win us a cup, and Babcock will be fired as head coach of Canada after once again not getting a medal.

d_phaneuf · 02-20-2010, 06:20 PM

They just had a live look in on the Canada practice at the intermission of the slovakia/latvia game

Richards is with Crosby and Nash now

Iginla is on the 4th line with Toews and Morrow, and Iginla is being subbed in and out with Bergeron

Machiavelli · 02-20-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

They just had a live look in on the Canada practice at the intermission of the slovakia/latvia game

Richards is with Crosby and Nash now

Iginla is on the 4th line with Toews and Morrow, and Iginla is being subbed in and out with Bergeron

That is freaking asinine. Not even good enough to solidify a spot on the fourth line?

LOL.

Jesse834 · 02-20-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

They just had a live look in on the Canada practice at the intermission of the slovakia/latvia game

Richards is with Crosby and Nash now

Iginla is on the 4th line with Toews and Morrow, and Iginla is being subbed in and out with Bergeron

I'm scratching my head over these changes. Babcock is a bloody idiot!

CGY12 · 02-20-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

They just had a live look in on the Canada practice at the intermission of the slovakia/latvia game

Richards is with Crosby and Nash now

Iginla is on the 4th line with Toews and Morrow, and Iginla is being subbed in and out with Bergeron

LOOOOOOOOOOL

It has got to the point where I'm not even mad anymore just dumbfounded. A monkey could do a better job at coaching this team.

Jesse834 · 02-20-2010, 06:40 PM

I typed Mike Babcock is an idiot in Google and this came up.

Puddy27 · 02-20-2010, 07:27 PM

This whole situation really just sucks for me. I was really excited about the prospects of watching such a big event in Canada and now I am some kind of soured.

I'm am torn because I find it really hard to get behind some of the choices being made by the coaching staff. It actually started before that when the team was picked.

I mean most of us know Regehr was not even close to making this team. Phaneuf played decent enough I think to garner more consideration but was on the bubble regardless and inevitably wasn't picked (whatever). Bouwmeester is having an off year offensively, but has been mostly solid defensively...that's pretty obvious. Who isn't having a bad offensive year on the Flames for the most part?

I don't think any of those guys would really look much worse than Neidermayer who is starting to play like he looks...old.

Then to see one of the most respected players in the entire league, singled out, it really makes me hate the team. Not that Iginla is the answer as most here have said, but he certianly has been no worse than most and to make him a bubble player is borderline insane imo.

* For the record, I hope they win gold and dominate the rest of the way...I am just finding it hard to get that into it. I can't wait for Flames hockey again.

I know, I know, take of my Flames blinders blah blah blah lol.

Anywho, Go Canada Go!

Reign of Fire · 02-20-2010, 07:39 PM

How come no one is blaming Pronger for that game...he clearly got pissed at the swiss for hitting him and went after him to hit him in the corner...leaving his side wide open, and the swiss ended up scoring and tied the game...I didn't see Babcock bench Pronger after that mistake...Just get the feeling that this coach may not like Iggy as much, but maybe thats just me...

Jesse834 · 02-20-2010, 07:58 PM

How is Ryan Getzlaf not benched? He has looked like really slow out on the ice.

Ren · 02-20-2010, 08:08 PM

This whole thing is just stupid. WTF has Rick Nash ever done that makes him so untouchable on that line? Furthermore, what is Bob Mckenzie smoking that would give him cause to say that Nash and Crosby have more chemistry than Iginla and Crosby and therefore moving Iggy to the 4th line makes sense? Remind me again which of these 3 guys has the hat trick, Bob? Hell, which of these 3 guys has any goals at all?

Nash gets plenty of PK time in Columbus and is far more of a grinder than Iggy is. I just don't get why Iginla is getting such a short leash when guys who haven't shown anything at all like Staal and Toews are given all sorts of opportunities. Furthermore, if this is just about playing your best players then will somebody please explain why Niedermayer is getting so much ice time?

OILFAN #81 · 02-20-2010, 08:14 PM

As diane_phaneuf mentioned a few posts earlier, Iginla could be the 13th forward tomorrow.

They showed practice and had some interviews on CNBC and these are the lines they went with today and anticipate for tomorrow:

Richards-Crosby-Nash
Marleau-Thornton-Heatley
Staal-Getzlaf-Perry
Morrow-Toews-Bergeron
Iginla

Here is an article that shows the first 3 lines for tomorrow's games:

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/new...y+canadas+line

CGY12 · 02-20-2010, 08:21 PM

Iginla HAS to be hurt. Peter Maher said ealier today he thinks Iggy has a concussion. If this isn't the case Babcock could possibly be the dumbest person alive.

Mitt31 · 02-20-2010, 09:17 PM

Nice reading the comments.... but i see this in one of two ways and i'm sure 99% of the Flames faithfull will agree.

Situation #1 - Iginla got injured and Babs is making sure he isnt going to get hurt any worse incase he can play in the gold medal game.

Situation #2 - Babs doesnt want Iggy to get hot and score 15 goals during the games which would result in him staying on fire during the final stretch of the regular season.

If Iggy gets hot then the Flames dominate and that leaves the wings one less team they can beat for the playoff spots.

My Hope - Situation #2 and Iggy scores every game while playing just 4 minutes to shove it down their throats and comes out of this scorching hot anyways