06-23-2016, 10:05 AM
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#721
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by getoverit
I thought we wanted BJ's to payout big doe forcing them to unload their goalie/Hartnell and their 3rd pic , not that we were going to take a run at Jones?? must be a day late and a dollar short today
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Best of both worlds really. CBJ is in a cap/budget crunch. They need to unload salary to sign Jones and remain under budget. Flames can either take back a bad salary with a quality asset or they can wait and try to get a quality asset with an offer sheet
In my opinion that is kind of what happened with Hamilton. Boston ended up getting a similar return to what they would have got had Hamilton been offer sheeted. I think CBJ is on the same rebuild trajectory as Toronto, right now they are looking to clear salary and start fresh. They are a poorly managed group in terms of the cap and i think their first priority is cleaning that up.
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06-23-2016, 10:05 AM
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#722
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: ...the bench
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Originally Posted by nik-
Gio, Brodie, Hamilton, Jones
Amazing in a non-cap world. A problem in this one though.
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but damn sexy anyway
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06-23-2016, 10:11 AM
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#723
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Imagine if the Flames could get Jones, move wideman and have Smid retire.
SCHWING
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Imagine losing one of Jones/Giordano/Brodie/Hamilton to Vegas after giving up assets for Jones. 
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06-23-2016, 10:12 AM
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#724
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Imagine losing one of Jones/Giordano/Brodie/Hamilton to Vegas after giving up assets for Jones. |
Or you protect all 4.
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06-23-2016, 10:13 AM
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#725
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Imagine losing one of Jones/Giordano/Brodie/Hamilton to Vegas after giving up assets for Jones. |
Wouldn't happen. Obviously Flames would protect 8-1 instead of 7-3-1 if that dream scenario ever actually happened.
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06-23-2016, 10:14 AM
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#726
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Imagine losing one of Jones/Giordano/Brodie/Hamilton to Vegas after giving up assets for Jones. |
Even though Jones is a pipe dream, he would be protected if that was the Flames situation. They would just do the 8/1 instead of the 7/3/1 option.
*EDIT - Late to the party...
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06-23-2016, 10:16 AM
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#727
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Franchise Player
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which means you add Frolik to the cost of acquisition, not to mention making it pretty much impossible cap-wise to round out the top 6
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06-23-2016, 10:17 AM
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#728
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by codynw
And there was no salary cap when Holik signed his deal.
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And Holik was actually a really good player who got paid like he was elite due to a really shallow free agency pool one year. It's too bad people remember him for the contract over payment and not for the great 2-way player he was.
Clarkson just ins't that good.... period.
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06-23-2016, 10:18 AM
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#729
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by AC
Or you protect all 4.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Wouldn't happen. Obviously Flames would protect 8-1 instead of 7-3-1 if that dream scenario ever actually happened.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theslymonkey
Even though Jones is a pipe dream, he would be protected if that was the Flames situation. They would just do the 8/1 instead of the 7/3/1 option.
*EDIT - Late to the party...
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OH my apologies. For some reason in was under the impression the 8-1 option was 8 forwards (ie Oilers) and no defenceman. My bad 
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06-23-2016, 10:45 AM
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#730
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Gio, Brodie, Hamilton, Jones
Amazing in a non-cap world. A problem in this one though.
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In Flash Walken's world, the Flames move Giordano for a forward and run with Jones/Hamilton/Brodie as their top 3.
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06-23-2016, 11:05 AM
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#731
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Franchise Player
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That would work
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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06-23-2016, 11:08 AM
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#732
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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It is too early to trade Giordano. Not only is he the captain of a very young team, he is still one of the best defensemen in the League, and should continue to play near that level for another couple of years.
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06-23-2016, 11:11 AM
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#733
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
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It is too early to trade Giordano. Not only is he the captain of a very young team, he is still one of the best defensemen in the League, and should continue to play near that level for another couple of years.
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He is the best trade chip the team has, he is significantly older than the rest of the core group and his contract has significant trade restrictions starting in a week.
He just came off a great season where he showed he was recovered from his biceps injury, and finished the season with a career high 56 points.
The rest of the core group is 8 years younger or more, and he's the highest paid player on the roster (for now).
All signs point to trade in my world!
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06-23-2016, 11:14 AM
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#734
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
He is the best trade chip the team has, he is significantly older than the rest of the core group and his contract has significant trade restrictions starting in a week.
He just came off a great season where he showed he was recovered from his biceps injury, and finished the season with a career high 56 points.
The rest of the core group is 8 years younger or more, and he's the highest paid player on the roster (for now).
All signs point to trade in my world!
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I don't want to see that trade happen at this time, just due to the optics it would have league wide regarding potential free agents or possibly NTC trades coming back that it might severely hurt us more.
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
Let us not befoul this glorious day with talk of the anal gland drippings that are HERO charts.
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06-23-2016, 12:45 PM
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#735
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Section 120
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I wish people would stop talking about moving any of these guys: Giordano, Bennett, Brodie, Gaudreau, Hamilton, or Monahan. They aren't going anywhere.
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06-23-2016, 12:53 PM
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#736
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin
I wish people would stop talking about moving any of these guys: Giordano, Bennett, Brodie, Gaudreau, Hamilton, or Monahan. They aren't going anywhere.
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Especially when it's off topic of the business surrounding a move for the 3rd overall pick. 
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06-23-2016, 02:05 PM
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#737
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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more posturing
News UpdateAaron Portzline @Aportzline
#CBJ GM Jarmo Kekalainen on #Leafs willingness to move No. 1 overall pick: "I don’t think that’s a possibility. I don't ... "
Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
"... know if that will change, but I don’t feel real optimistic about it."
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06-23-2016, 02:26 PM
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#738
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
In Flash Walken's world, the Flames move Giordano for a forward and run with Jones/Hamilton/Brodie as their top 3.
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I would agree with moving Gio sooner rather than later otherwise the Flames could end up with another Iggy situation where he gets moved for a pretty poor return.
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06-23-2016, 02:32 PM
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#739
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
I would agree with moving Gio sooner rather than later otherwise the Flames could end up with another Iggy situation where he gets moved for a pretty poor return.
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Or Gio retires as a flame?
Big difference between Gio and Iggy. Gio is going to be 33 on a team full of 20-25 year old players.
When Iggy was 33 all the best players were in a similar age bracket
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06-23-2016, 02:49 PM
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#740
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Ah mystery solved!
Kekalainen has never actually watched Laine or Puljujarvi! Has no clue who they are.
Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
#CBJ Kekalainen won't even describe Laine's or Puljujuarvi's games, lest he tip his hand. "Somebody will have to tell you after the draft."
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