06-21-2016, 06:44 PM
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#441
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Pass to taking on bad deals. How many people can't wait for Wideman's deal to expire would want to go through this again with a worse player in Clarkson? Simply not worth it.
Treliving has to realize the Flames lost in the lottery and accept it as the Flames will still get a good player at 6. Taking on these bad contracts is silly talk as there's a bigger picture here than Puljujarvi who IMO isn't that much better of a player than say Nylander or Juolevi to risk handicapping your salary cap situation.
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06-21-2016, 06:44 PM
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#442
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Clarkson's contract is probably the worst in the history of this league.
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Bobby Holik (5 years, $45 million) says hi.
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06-21-2016, 06:44 PM
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#443
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
FWIW Dreger on TSN says other GMs have told him that if Kekalainen moves #3 he wants to attach a bad contract like Hartnell or Clarkson.
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Done. Hartnell is exactly the type of veteran scoring/power forward with snarl that this team has been missing for years. He might be slow these days, but as long as he can park in front of the net or dig in corners, he can be attached to any trade he wants. The guy is a 20 goal scoring machine, even on bad teams. Watch what happens when you put Gaudreau on the opposite wing.
Also picking up the 3rd overall? Yes, thank you, I will happily take that.
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06-21-2016, 06:45 PM
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#444
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
And yet, CBJ took it on, willingly.
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Horton was never going to play again, but Clarkson hasn't been much better
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06-21-2016, 06:46 PM
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#445
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
Bobby Holik (5 years, $45 million) says hi.
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At least's Holik's was only 5 years, and Clarkson is half the player Holik was.
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06-21-2016, 06:47 PM
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#446
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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big no to Clarkson obviously ... big yes to Hartnell.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Puljujärvi
Hartnell - Bennett - Frolik
please and thank you.
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06-21-2016, 06:48 PM
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#447
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
At least's Holik's was only 5 years, and Clarkson is half the player Holik was.
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And there was no salary cap when Holik signed his deal.
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06-21-2016, 06:48 PM
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#448
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
And yet, CBJ took it on, willingly.
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They did that to dump an equally bad Nathan Horton contract.
The Leafs could put Horton on LTIR and clear his cap space (without worrying about how much they actually paid him because they're the Leafs), and the Jackets were at least getting a player who could play for them while they're paying him way too much money. The fact that he'd only play 23 games last year was unknown at the time.
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06-21-2016, 06:50 PM
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#449
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Lifetime Suspension
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Hartnell would be an amazing addition to this team as a player and mentor. Hell yes!
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06-21-2016, 06:53 PM
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#450
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
They did that to dump an equally bad Nathan Horton contract.
The Leafs could put Horton on LTIR and clear his cap space (without worrying about how much they actually paid him because they're the Leafs), and the Jackets were at least getting a player who could play for them while they're paying him way too much money. The fact that he'd only play 23 games last year was unknown at the time.
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Problem is that a wet fart is probably just a useful as Clarkson.
I understand the logistics of the trade from an ownership standpoint, but I don't like how Clarkson takes away a spot from somebody who is probably more worthy on the farm.
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06-21-2016, 07:32 PM
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#451
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Horton was never going to play again, but Clarkson hasn't been much better
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The only reason CBJ took it was because Horton's wasn't insured and he was never going to play again. So they were shelling out money for their stupidity.
Clarkson at lease could be a warm body.
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06-21-2016, 07:35 PM
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#452
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Yes I agree with those above. Clarkson is bad enough of a contract and a player that I wouldn't make that trade. Hartnell however still has value and use.
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06-21-2016, 07:40 PM
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#453
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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I don't think any team will take on Clarkson at this point and if they do, it'll make their team worse... I think the Flames can take hartnell and add value too.
I think they'll do it.
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06-21-2016, 07:44 PM
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#454
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Is Tyutin an option? Not as good as Hartnell but not total dead weight like Clarkson. And would add a physical element to the blueline
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06-21-2016, 07:46 PM
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#455
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Is Tyutin an option? Not as good as Hartnell but not total dead weight like Clarkson. And would add a physical element to the blueline
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Would have to go 8-1 on expansion protection.
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06-21-2016, 07:48 PM
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#456
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Is Tyutin an option? Not as good as Hartnell but not total dead weight like Clarkson. And would add a physical element to the blueline
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The Flames already have enough dmen making over 4 million. No thanks.
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06-21-2016, 07:48 PM
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#457
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Would have to go 8-1 on expansion protection.
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Full NMC?
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06-21-2016, 07:49 PM
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#458
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Full NMC?
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Any NMC (unless it is waived) must be protected.
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06-21-2016, 07:50 PM
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#459
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Full NMC?
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NMC with Modified NTC.
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06-21-2016, 07:50 PM
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#460
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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What about something like 3 OA + hartnell + tyutin for 6 OA + Raymond + mid second
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