Bill Peters' open apology to Treliving. UPD: Aliu responds

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Eubee

Maybe this is covered in another thread, but if Peters should be turfed because of this, and he definitely should, I would hope most agree that guys like Quentin Taratino should never work again either.

Why does Hollywood skate on garbage talk like this? I'm thinking that in this progressive environment, this becoming public could open a lot of other doors in the vein of eliminating this kind of talk which would be some nice serendipity.

I'm betting many of the people on this forum highlighting their displeasure with Peters and their displeasure with the 'racists' on this forum have Taratino DVD's at home, that they felt perfectly fine buying, knowing what is on them.

I'm so confused.

[Eubee]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Does that include Sam L Jackson for starring in Tarantino’s overtly racist movies? What about the actor that portrayed Hitler in IB? I heard the real guy did some bad things.

This black and white line isn't so defined I guess. Good to know.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Eubee

This black and white line isn't so defined I guess. Good to know.

No... its pretty well defined. Has been for some time now.

[Saturn]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I don't think anyone is saying that exactly...just that if it is so offensive to you maybe find some new lyrics

fact is the word would be less popular/frequently used if it wasn't used in popular culture by anyone

just an observation

Yeah you are right. This whole situation is the fault of Akim because he listens to hip hop.

People call their friends and those they know by names and with words they would otherwise never use with a stranger. I know women who call eachother B****es. Like “hey b**** how are you”

Does that mean I can go up to a random woman I don’t know and call her that?
Does it mean I can then turn around and tell her “well if you don’t like it you probably shouldn’t use it with eachother”

Pretty shocking that something like this happens to a young man and we have people pointing the finger at Aliu and his choice of music. Serves you right for listening to that music where they use that word. “If it’s offensive, stop listening to it.”

No doubt the same people who came out in support of cherrys words, when cherry himself admitted to regretting the use of the term “you people”.

There are also some pretty vile things said in movies that some people don’t want to hear. That doesn’t mean you can walk up to a Tarantino fan and swear at them and turn around and tell them if they don’t like it they shouldn’t be watching pulp fiction.

Either way it’s not really the place of some conservative white male to decide what other cultures and other people say to eachother especially in their own art forms and avenues of expression. It’s not like these people have Tourette’s syndrome and they are randomly blurting out this word. It comes from somewhere and they use it for a reason.

Classic white mans burden to civilize and teach all of these inferior feeble minded people. Because there’s nothing in our culture that could possibly be repulsive and jarring to others!

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Saturn

Yeah you are right. This whole situation is the fault of Akim because he listens to hip hop.

People call their friends and those they know by names and with words they would otherwise never use with a stranger. I know women who call eachother B****es. Like “hey b**** how are you”

Does that mean I can go up to a random woman I don’t know and call her that?
Does it mean I can then turn around and tell her “well if you don’t like it you probably shouldn’t use it with eachother”

Pretty shocking that something like this happens to a young man and we have people pointing the finger at Aliu and his choice of music. Serves you right for listening to that music where they use that word. “If it’s offensive, stop listening to it.”

No doubt the same people who came out in support of cherrys words, when cherry himself admitted to regretting the use of the term “you people”.

There are also some pretty vile things said in movies that some people don’t want to hear. That doesn’t mean you can walk up to a Tarantino fan and swear at them and turn around and tell them if they don’t like it they shouldn’t be watching pulp fiction.

Either way it’s not really the place of some conservative white male to decide what other cultures and other people say to eachother especially in their own art forms and avenues of expression. It’s not like these people have Tourette’s syndrome and they are randomly blurting out this word. It comes from somewhere and they use it for a reason.

Classic white mans burden to civilize and teach all of these inferior feeble minded people. Because there’s nothing in our culture that could possibly be repulsive and jarring to others!

I think at this point everyone just needs to take a nice long break from this thread...

Sheeeesh

[hjerk]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

I think at this point everyone just needs to take a nice long break from this thread...

Sheeeesh

It's gotten pretty convoluted so I have to agree. At this point regarding our little corner of the internet all we really need to know is if Peters is still coach or not.

And if we will have a new arena or not.

And if Johnny will get traded to Philly or not.

And if Sam Bennett will ever be a legitimate too 6 forward or not.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by hjerk

It's gotten pretty convoluted so I have to agree. At this point regarding our little corner of the internet all we really need to know is if Peters is still coach or not.

And if we will have a new arena or not.

And if Johnny will get traded to Philly or not.

And if Sam Bennett will ever be a legitimate too 6 forward or not.

And as always and Forever, E=NG

[zamler]

Remember when we used to talk about hockey? Those were good times.

[imeubu]

Sorry... I just can't get on board with pummeling someone for doing something that, while it may be wrong... can't be wrong for only some of us.

Anyone who has heard Rap knows the N word is ubiquitous as well as sexual references that denigrate and marginalize.

How is it that Bill is not allowed to complain about that sort of content being brought into his dressing room but others are defended for their right to blast it out without regard.

[CroFlames]

Not sure if this article has been posted yet, but the Georges Laraque interview is shocking to read https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...cult-path-nhl/.

And when I was there alone, no parents, parents were shouting names at me, the N-word at me — so much that if you came to a game, you would think that the N-word was my name. It was insane.

Puts into perspective that even if Peters said the word in the heat of the moment and not as a direct racist attack, he digs up memories Aliu probably suffered through growing up.

I think it would be immeasurably powerful if Iginla came out with a statement in support of any and all players that were victims of racist abuse. A superstar and gentleman with tons of name recognition and authority.

[Eubee]

Originally Posted by Makarov

No... its pretty well defined. Has been for some time now.

You're right, in my mind it has as well. Thank you.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by imeubu

Sorry... I just can't get on board with pummeling someone for doing something that, while it may be wrong... can't be wrong for only some of us.

Anyone who has heard Rap knows the N word is ubiquitous as well as sexual references that denigrate and marginalize.

How is it that Bill is not allowed to complain about that sort of content being brought into his dressing room but others are defended for their right to blast it out without regard.

If you don't understand why black people can use the word and no else else can then I suggest you educate yourself better on the subject.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by imeubu

Sorry... I just can't get on board with pummeling someone for doing something that, while it may be wrong... can't be wrong for only some of us.

Anyone who has heard Rap knows the N word is ubiquitous as well as sexual references that denigrate and marginalize.

How is it that Bill is not allowed to complain about that sort of content being brought into his dressing room but others are defended for their right to blast it out without regard.

Because he used the N word you imbecile. We have been over this 100 times already in this thread.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

If you don't understand why black people can use the word and no else else can then I suggest you educate yourself better on the subject.

I think the bigger problem is that he doesn't understand that nobody is saying Peters can't complain about the type of music being played. People are complaining about *how* Peters complained.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by hjerk

It's gotten pretty convoluted so I have to agree. At this point regarding our little corner of the internet all we really need to know is if Peters is still coach or not.

And if we will have a new arena or not.

And if Johnny will get traded to Philly or not.

And if Sam Bennett will ever be a legitimate too 6 forward or not.

1. Probably not
2. Seems inevitable
3. Just say no
4. He is what he is at this point

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by imeubu

Sorry... I just can't get on board with pummeling someone for doing something that, while it may be wrong... can't be wrong for only some of us.

Anyone who has heard Rap knows the N word is ubiquitous as well as sexual references that denigrate and marginalize.

How is it that Bill is not allowed to complain about that sort of content being brought into his dressing room but others are defended for their right to blast it out without regard.

He's allowed to complain about it. Just not like that.

[Looch City]

All this has me thinking what would happen if I say "Alexa, play some n**** music"

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

The n bomb is terrible no matter who says it . On the other hand tho maybe dont put it in your music if you don't want it repeated.

Wait, she got black lashed because she sang the song that has the n word in it? Is the artist black?

[Poe969]

I just want Don Cherry to say something like "I would never use a word like that, I understand how you people would feel if I did."

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Strangely Uma Thurman has defended Tarantino about that incident for which it seemed to me he was at fault.

Same with when he choked Diane Kruger in Basterds (those are his hands).

FWIW, while DeCaprio was uncomfortable with saying the word in Django, Foxx and Jackson convinced him it was OK, which it was, in a period piece. I did find Tarantino writing it for himself in Pulp Fiction to be pretty gratuitious, and IIRC Jackson also told him he didn't really like it (not so much he quit obv.)