05-24-2016, 09:48 AM
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#5861
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Originally Posted by peter12
A lot of poor white people support Trump too.
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A lot of poor white people just support the Republicans in general.
Cuz Bible
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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05-24-2016, 09:49 AM
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#5862
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Originally Posted by nik-
A lot of poor white people just support the Republicans in general.
Cuz Bible
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No, that's not true. You are part of the problem.
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05-24-2016, 09:52 AM
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#5863
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I really am
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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05-24-2016, 09:53 AM
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#5864
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Poor white people are his base.
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05-24-2016, 09:54 AM
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#5865
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Originally Posted by peter12
No, that's not true. You are part of the problem.
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http://www.stirjournal.com/2016/04/0...p-trump-trump/
A decent longish read that is relevant to the conversation. I quite liked it.
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05-24-2016, 09:56 AM
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#5867
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Bernie voters who say they won't vote for Hillary are basically a bunch of petulant whiny children. The two agree on nearly everything of substance.
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It's like the young supporters of Eugene McCarthy who had a tantrum when the 'establishment' Hubert Humphrey won the Democratic nomination in 1968. The result? Richard Nixon in the White House.
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Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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05-24-2016, 09:56 AM
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#5868
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
It's like the young supporters of Eugene McCarthy who had a tantrum when the 'establishment' Hubert Humphrey won the Democratic nomination in 1968. The result? Richard Nixon in the White House.
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How the hell old are you?!
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"The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno
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05-24-2016, 09:58 AM
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#5869
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
How the hell old are you?!
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There are books, and they contain history.
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05-24-2016, 10:03 AM
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#5870
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These books you speak of... they are available electronically, yes?
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05-24-2016, 10:03 AM
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#5871
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
These books you speak of... they are available electronically, yes?
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Possibly. Possibly. I haven't investigated yet.
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05-24-2016, 10:08 AM
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#5872
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
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I literally posted this on the last page, like an hour ago. 
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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05-24-2016, 10:51 AM
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#5873
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
I literally posted this on the last page, like an hour ago. |
Aw crap I pulled a Dion, my bad. I'm expected to read back three posts before mine instead of instantly responding to things? What is this, Soviet Russia?
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05-24-2016, 10:53 AM
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#5874
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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You could just watch John Oliver if you are opposed to reading. He covered it quickly and with a modicum of humour.
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05-24-2016, 10:56 AM
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#5875
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
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Fascinating read, thanks for the link.
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05-24-2016, 08:59 PM
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#5876
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I just turned on CNN after the hockey game wrapped up and it looks like things might be getting really out of control outside of Trump's rally in New Mexico. They are saying that protesters are taking down barriers, throwing rocks, starting fires and fighting.
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05-24-2016, 10:11 PM
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#5877
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
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It is interesting that poor white people and poor black people are on completely opposite ends of the political spectrum. Maybe that's by design because the one thing that could upset the apple cart for the wealthy elite (and corporate America) would be if all the poor people got behind one political party.
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05-24-2016, 10:43 PM
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#5878
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Ah, good old CNN. If you go to a protest prepared to help people who have been pepper sprayed, you are against democracy.
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05-25-2016, 07:00 AM
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#5879
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by peter12
There are books, and they contain history.
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I recommend Nixonland for a dramatic look at how the modern U.S. political table was set, and the cultural currents underlying it all. Basically, the white working class has a deep-rooted resentment of American cultural and political elites. When the Democratic party seemed to fall under the sway of those elites, and furthermore pandered to American blacks for votes (describing how they see it), they turned to the Republicans. But not the classic Rockefeller business-guy in a suit Republican - the Republican who could believably share their resentment of elites. Religion and anti-socialism play a part (we find it odd that poor white Americans can be against socialism, but they are). But it's really all about resentment.
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Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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Last edited by CliffFletcher; 05-25-2016 at 07:02 AM.
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05-25-2016, 08:28 AM
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#5880
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I recommend Nixonland for a dramatic look at how the modern U.S. political table was set, and the cultural currents underlying it all. Basically, the white working class has a deep-rooted resentment of American cultural and political elites. When the Democratic party seemed to fall under the sway of those elites, and furthermore pandered to American blacks for votes (describing how they see it), they turned to the Republicans. But not the classic Rockefeller business-guy in a suit Republican - the Republican who could believably share their resentment of elites. Religion and anti-socialism play a part (we find it odd that poor white Americans can be against socialism, but they are). But it's really all about resentment. |
And of course the follow up to Nixon-Land (and the roadmap to how we got where we are today): The Invisible Bridge: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...visible-bridge
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