11-08-2016, 09:17 AM
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#5801
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Not the one...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate
The Senate, by not holding a hearing, is withholding its consent. Which is exactly what their job allows them to do.
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Voting against the nomination is withholding consent.
Doing nothing is not-doing-your-job.
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11-08-2016, 09:18 AM
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#5802
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wittynickname
They are indefinitely withholding consent until a Republican is in office. They are not withholding consent because the nominee is unqualified. There is a massive difference in those two stances.
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If the roles where reversed, wouldn't Reid do the same thing?
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11-08-2016, 09:20 AM
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#5803
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Not the one...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
If the roles where reversed, wouldn't Reid do the same thing?
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No.
There is plenty of precedent. Biden and Reid have voted against nominees before, but there has never been a nominee denied a vote in this manner.
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11-08-2016, 09:21 AM
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#5804
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wittynickname
They are indefinitely withholding consent until a Republican is in office. They are not withholding consent because the nominee is unqualified. There is a massive difference in those two stances.
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That may be, but the Constitution does not distinguish between the two, nor does it require that withholding consent be done for only a reason that is acceptable to you (or to anyone, for that matter).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gozer
Voting against the nomination is withholding consent.
Doing nothing is not-doing-your-job.
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Shrug. Doing nothing is an action that is Constitutionally allowed.
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11-08-2016, 09:21 AM
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#5805
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
If the roles where reversed, wouldn't Reid do the same thing?
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They didn't with the previous president. Not to anything approaching the childishness that the Tea Party swing in the Republicans has done.
Honestly if the side I was supporting was acting the way the Republicans for the last six years have, I'd be embarrassed. Regardless of what you said before, their job actually isn't to just refuse to work with anything the president does. That's not the checks and balances system, that's a tantrum.
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11-08-2016, 09:23 AM
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#5806
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
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Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are all the same you guys.
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11-08-2016, 09:25 AM
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#5807
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Franchise Player
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Why are the police escorting people in? Their time would be better spent taking the people attempting to stop them from voting to prison?
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11-08-2016, 09:25 AM
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#5808
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Chances it passes?
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Pretty good, the only real opponents to it are Catholics. Colorado has started shifting much more liberal so I'm hopeful. They're also looking to open up primaries to unaffiliated voters and increase the minimum wage to $12 by 2020. The wage thing will probably lose I think.
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11-08-2016, 09:26 AM
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#5809
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Police should be escorting those deplorables to jail.
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11-08-2016, 09:26 AM
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#5810
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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I can get behind free bagels
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Last edited by Senator Clay Davis; 11-08-2016 at 09:29 AM.
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11-08-2016, 09:29 AM
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#5811
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Not the one...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate
Shrug. Doing nothing is an action that is Constitutionally allowed.
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I would argue that, under Scalia's interpretation, it's not.
This is a "duty".
However, it is also improper for either of the other two branches to attempt to enforce that.
Last edited by Gozer; 11-08-2016 at 09:37 AM.
Reason: Spelling
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11-08-2016, 09:45 AM
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#5812
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate
That may be, but the Constitution does not distinguish between the two, nor does it require that withholding consent be done for only a reason that is acceptable to you (or to anyone, for that matter).
Shrug. Doing nothing is an action that is Constitutionally allowed.
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You're not wrong, you're just an #######.
The problem is that they are not "doing nothing" because the nomination is unqualified, or even has beliefs that go against the GOP. They're literally doing it to stick it to Obama/HRC/Dems. That's fine I guess if that's how you think politics should work, but I don't particularly agree.
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11-08-2016, 09:45 AM
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#5813
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
In non presidential news Colorado had several amendments on the ballot I'm hoping pass, including legalizing doctor assisted suicide.
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That's a pretty drastic reaction to a Trump win.
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11-08-2016, 09:45 AM
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#5814
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
That's a pretty drastic reaction to a Trump win.
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Ha! 
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11-08-2016, 09:50 AM
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#5815
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
That's a pretty drastic reaction to a Trump win.
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It's either that or move back to Canada and I really hate packing so...
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11-08-2016, 09:56 AM
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#5816
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Franchise Player
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I'm not a Trump supporter but I would love to see a Trump presidency just to see how crazy things get and to see how the markets react to that news. I would also love to see Hillary lose and watch her and her supporters react to that news.
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11-08-2016, 09:57 AM
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#5817
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
I'm not a Trump supporter but I would love to see a Trump presidency just to see how crazy things get and to see how the markets react to that news. I would also love to see Hillary lose and watch her and her supporters react to that news.
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Ugh.
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11-08-2016, 09:58 AM
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#5818
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
I'm not a Trump supporter but I would love to see a Trump presidency just to see how crazy things get and to see how the markets react to that news. I would also love to see Hillary lose and watch her and her supporters react to that news.
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I hope Trump wins and your stock portfolio collapses, just for ####s and giggles.
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11-08-2016, 09:59 AM
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#5819
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
I hope Trump wins and your stock portfolio collapses, just for ####s and giggles.
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I'm too poor for stocks now a days. I've pulled most of my money out.
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11-08-2016, 10:01 AM
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#5820
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regorium
You're not wrong, you're just an #######.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regorium
The problem is that they are not "doing nothing" because the nomination is unqualified, or even has beliefs that go against the GOP. They're literally doing it to stick it to Obama/HRC/Dems. That's fine I guess if that's how you think politics should work, but I don't particularly agree.
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Presuming that you are a U.S. citizen, then you should work to change the Constitution so that it aligns with how you think it should work.
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