11-08-2016, 08:38 AM
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#5781
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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I'm debating buying a trump hat today. The money can't help his campaign and I really want one for posterity.
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11-08-2016, 08:38 AM
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#5782
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
If the Republicans stand up to the "deplorables", would they ever stand a chance to win again though? As much as some Republicans like to view themselves on a higher ground, they still cater to them for their votes. Worse yet, if the "deplorables" are pushed aside, would the Democrats be greedy enough to lower themselves and absorb them?
It's interesting from a historical perspective. About 150 years ago, the parties were pretty much reversed. The Republicans were the party of snooty northerners and the Democrats were the party or southern plantation owners. Wealthy businessmen in the north were concerned that they couldn't compete with slave states and demanded the Republican party do something about it. Then after the civil war, in order to try and win the heart of the south, the Republicans over-compensated by going full-on "states rights" and the Democrats filled the vacuum in the north.
If the "deplorables" are up for grabs after this, I could totally see another reversal again and our great grandchildren will read about it in the history books. In fact, I can see my great granddaughter's high school essay now... "How 9/11 and and the Invasion of Iraq Eventually Reversed the Poles of the US Political Landscape".
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The true deplorables are only part of Trumps support. If someone could harness the outsider, anti-establishment, make America Great again mantra without the racism and xenophobia they might have a chance. A cross between Sanders and Trump? The ranks of the disaffected are only growing and span all races if framed correctly.
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11-08-2016, 08:41 AM
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#5783
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
If she overreaches like Obama did with executive actions
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... what?
Prorated for tenure of presidency. Barack Obama has used the least number of executive orders since Chester Arthur.
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11-08-2016, 08:44 AM
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#5784
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Originally Posted by photon
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OMG! That proves it! She's a robot! Killary is Killroy!
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11-08-2016, 08:45 AM
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#5785
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
What are they supposed to do? How about start with their jobs?
Governance is about negotiation and compromise. Find the things that we all agree on, then work to find compromise on the things we don't. The Republicans have taken the tact of just saying no to everything proposed by the Democrats until they get what they want. Obamacare is the perfect example. That legislation is not on the President. That abomination is on congress, as they were the ones who negotiated and drafted the bill. Instead of drafting pragmatic legislation the Republicans attempted to sabotage the bill by bloating it with rules and bad policy. Both parties contributed to bad legislation, but one has mastered obstructionism to get their way. The Republicans seem less interested in governance and more interested in destroying the system all together, then building it back up to suit their needs. That isn't how the process was supposed to work. They are failing in upholding their oath of office.
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Agreed. But why did Obama abandon Simpson-Bowles? I really really think there was a deal to be made in 2011 between him and Boehner.
I have been critical of the GOP for a while. They need to go back to being the party of ideas and have a more positive constructive way of going about their business.
But this is politics. I hope the same criticisms are expressed when the GOP holds the white house (if that ever happens in my lifetime again) and the Dems hold Congress.
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11-08-2016, 08:45 AM
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#5786
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burn_this_city
I'm debating buying a trump hat today. The money can't help his campaign and I really want one for posterity.
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You can't get a real one legally. Only US Americans can order the hat from the Trump website. But hey there's always Amazon/EBay knockoffs.
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11-08-2016, 08:47 AM
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#5787
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hes
Trump just said "today is our Independence Day"
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Lol missed this!!
Welcome to Earf!
"In the words of my generation: Up... YOURS!"
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11-08-2016, 08:48 AM
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#5789
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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^^Pretty sure Trump is lifting that from Farage more than ID4.
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11-08-2016, 08:48 AM
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#5790
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
You can't get a real one legally. Only US Americans can order the hat from the Trump website. But hey there's always Amazon/EBay knockoffs.
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Is there an official Make Mexico Great Again Also hat?
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11-08-2016, 08:51 AM
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#5791
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wittynickname
Living in Toomey's state?
Nope. I want him gone. Beyond all the other issues I have with him, he flat out said he refused to even give a hearing to a Supreme Court nominee because Barack Obama nominated him. He said he would've confirmed Merrick Garland if it wasn't Obama attempting the appointment.
He refused to appoint a thoroughly qualified man for a seat on the Supreme Court because he was having a hissy fit because he doesn't like President Obama.
Do your job or lose it.
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I have regrettably never been to Pennsylvania.
I thought his work with Joe Manchin was applaudable.
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11-08-2016, 08:51 AM
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#5792
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Not the one...
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Agreed. But why did Obama abandon Simpson-Bowles? I really really think there was a deal to be made in 2011 between him and Boehner.
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Simpson-Bowles was a substantial tax increase.
There was zero chance that a single Repub would have supported it.
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11-08-2016, 08:51 AM
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#5793
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First Line Centre
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I'd probably get a "Make America Skate Again" as worn by Lil Wayne:
That and reppin' Chance the Rapper? Why not?
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11-08-2016, 09:01 AM
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#5794
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Make polling places great again!
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E McMorris-SantoroVerified account @EvanMcS 4m4 minutes ago
Trump is being loudly booed at his polling place
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https://twitter.com/EvanMcS/status/796018682401001472
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11-08-2016, 09:08 AM
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#5795
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
You can't get a real one legally. Only US Americans can order the hat from the Trump website. But hey there's always Amazon/EBay knockoffs.
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Getting the real deal and sending it to a friend in NY.
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11-08-2016, 09:13 AM
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#5796
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by photon
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The law is likely unconstitutional on first amendment grounds.
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Originally Posted by wittynickname
But when a party refuses to do something as constitutionally inherent to their job like holding hearings for a SCOTUS nominee not based on the nominee's merit, but solely based on the President who nominated him, that goes beyond separation of powers.
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Meh.
The Senate's job, in respect of "Judges of the supreme Court" is to advise and consent. The Constitution does not require the Senate to hold a hearing for such judges (or nominees).
The Senate, by not holding a hearing, is withholding its consent. Which is exactly what their job allows them to do.
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11-08-2016, 09:13 AM
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#5797
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Lifetime In Suspension
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In non presidential news Colorado had several amendments on the ballot I'm hoping pass, including legalizing doctor assisted suicide.
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11-08-2016, 09:13 AM
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#5798
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Originally Posted by calculoso
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The number isn't what's important, it's what you do with them. Obama didn't start the trend towards centralizing more power in the executive, but he has continued it. The president is more powerful than he's ever been before. Partly that's because Congress has ceded a fair bit of decision-making power to the White House through enactment in recent years, though.
https://www.mercatus.org/publication...-proclamations
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11-08-2016, 09:14 AM
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#5799
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wittyusertitle
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate
The law is likely unconstitutional on first amendment grounds.
Meh.
The Senate's job, in respect of "Judges of the supreme Court" is to advise and consent. The Constitution does not require the Senate to hold a hearing for such judges (or nominees).
The Senate, by not holding a hearing, is withholding its consent. Which is exactly what their job allows them to do.
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They are indefinitely withholding consent until a Republican is in office. They are not withholding consent because the nominee is unqualified. There is a massive difference in those two stances.
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11-08-2016, 09:16 AM
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#5800
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
In non presidential news Colorado had several amendments on the ballot I'm hoping pass, including legalizing doctor assisted suicide.
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Chances it passes?
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