2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If a team offers a 2nd round pick today you probably take it but if the offers are a 3rd round pick or worse, there's no reason not to wait until closer to the trade deadline. I think the 1A/B rotation is ideal right now to keep Wolf's workload down and there's no point in disrupting that unless a significant offer comes in.

Yeah it’s really all about Wolfie.

[Vinny01]

Wasn’t Friedman the guy that tossed around Neal for Lucic a few weeks/months before it happened?

Makes me think about that Canucks-Sabres deal he floated. Rutherford is not afraid to make big moves and Buffalo is desperate for a change. If Pettersson is not jiving with Tochett or Miller or both perhaps that is enough for Vancouver to move him now before the NMC kicks in next year? There were rumors a Pettersson for Necas swap was in the works last year before Petey signed his extension so it does seem like the Canucks are open to moving him.

I think Calgary would have keen interest if Pettersson was available but I don’t see them having the pieces the Canucks want as Vancouver wants to win now and Andersson/Kadri won’t move the needle I would think? Those 2 guys look like Tochett players but are older and I can’t see the Canucks wanting to move an 8 year deal in the division. Pettersson with Huberdeau would be worth trying out and I think Pettersson would flourish with a change of scenery.

The more I think about it the Buffalo deal kind of makes sense for both teams.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Spending years at the bottom of the standings isn’t the big problem with Buffalo. It’s having their top six forwards and top four D made up almost entirely of 19-26 year olds.

Learning how to defend properly in the NHL and play without the puck takes years. While players are learning how to do that, they need to be insulated by veterans who can be relied on and set an example. A roster made up mostly of players with 1-4 seasons of NHL experience will be terrible at team defence.

Flames fans who call for every vet to be traded away and for the roster to be handed over to the kids should keep that in mind.

It is the chicken or the egg. You are right, there is a balance that needs to be considered. As much as the fans want every single expiring or soon to be contract to be traded away, the kids need to be insulated. I think the Flames have done a great job with this so far.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Wasn’t Friedman the guy that tossed around Neal for Lucic a few weeks/months before it happened?

Makes me think about that Canucks-Sabres deal he floated. Rutherford is not afraid to make big moves and Buffalo is desperate for a change. If Pettersson is not jiving with Tochett or Miller or both perhaps that is enough for Vancouver to move him now before the NMC kicks in next year? There were rumors a Pettersson for Necas swap was in the works last year before Petey signed his extension so it does seem like the Canucks are open to moving him.

I think Calgary would have keen interest if Pettersson was available but I don’t see them having the pieces the Canucks want as Vancouver wants to win now and Andersson/Kadri won’t move the needle I would think? Those 2 guys look like Tochett players but are older and I can’t see the Canucks wanting to move an 8 year deal in the division. Pettersson with Huberdeau would be worth trying out and I think Pettersson would flourish with a change of scenery.

The more I think about it the Buffalo deal kind of makes sense for both teams.

That was Eric Duhatschek.

Maybe Friedman said it too. I remember a few people batting that around even posters here.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by saillias

Frank claimed today they are still considering re-signing him. I don't get it and never have

His numbers are not of a goalie who wins you a tonne of games. Sign Vlader for two more years to split time with Wolf and drop in the standings when you want to look competitive but be bad enough to have a solid chance to draft McKenna and Dupont.

That is if they don't get an acceptable offer to trade Vladar. They can bring up any backup to do the above but it isn't a problem to have a guy who gets along well with your future franchise goalie.

[Sylvanfan]

Read some whacko artical that the Rangers players are actively trying to get Drury ousted. Claims that Laviolette is not their gripe it's Drury. Also says he's trying to move Zibenajad along with Kreider. It cites Steve Dangle as a source....so I do think it's more fantasy than fiction. But I do hope it's true.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The more I think about it the Buffalo deal kind of makes sense for both teams.

If Buffalo adds Benson and a pick, sure.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

If Buffalo adds Benson and a pick, sure.

Pure delusion.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Pure delusion.

Realistic cost of a 26 year old number 1 ppg defensively responsible center.

I don't expect a team to say yes to it. But if the team wants him, it's the type of deal they're going to have to make.

An oft injured number 3 rfa dman and a second line center don't get the deal done.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I don’t necessarily think Vladar is a world-beater, but he’s a hell of a lot better than people in here give him credit for. Put him on the Golden Knights and his stats will improve dramatically.

Is he better than "big save Dave" Rittich in your opinion? Because that's what I thought of Rittich when he moved on. He moved on to TOR and put up an .888sv%, then NSH with an .886sv%, WPG .901sv%, until he finally put up a .921 with LAK last year. This year he's back to .890sv% with LAK.

I guess my point is that even average backups could win you games, and rarely outright lose their team games. That's what I see Vladar as at this point - an average backup.

Personally, I really want to see what we have in Cooley.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Realistic cost of a 26 year old number 1 ppg defensively responsible center.

I don't expect a team to say yes to it. But if the team wants him, it's the type of deal they're going to have to make.

An oft injured number 3 rfa dman and a second line center don't get the deal done.

Not sure a team gives up 3 first round picks 2 of which were top 10 for a player who has had 100pts once and is signed to a very expensive contract and failed to live up to it in the short time since it was signed. The Benson add is where it gets delusional in my opinion.

[Paulie Walnuts]

A 26-year-old PPG #1 C with a 100-point season is worth more than a regressing #2 C and an often-injured dman.

Starting to feel like the Thorton trade packet. Wayne Primeau(Benson), Cozens(Sturm), Stuart(Byram).

[SuperMatt18]

The Eichel trade would be the starting point, and I'd say there were fewer question marks with Pettersson at the time of the trade than their were with Eichel.

Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd

[Tbull8]

wonder if NYR would put together a package then.

Chytil Kakko 1st 2nd

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The Eichel trade would be the starting point, and I'd say there were fewer question marks with Pettersson at the time of the trade than their were with Eichel.

Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd

I don't know. Eichel play was still elite, he was well on his way to 100-point seasons before injuries derailed him, and the team started beefing with him.

Elias seems to be stuck in that PPG state right now.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

A 26-year-old PPG #1 C with a 100-point season is worth more than a regressing #2 C and an often-injured dman.

Starting to feel like the Thorton trade packet. Wayne Primeau(Benson), Cozens(Sturm), Stuart(Byram).

Development is not linear. I wouldn’t dismiss Cozens, Byram, or Benson.

One thing we do know is Byram performed very well on a cup winning team. Pettersen was not nearly as effective last year. That alone ought to tilt the scales.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I don't know. Eichel play was still elite, he was well on his way to 100-point seasons before injuries derailed him, and the team started beefing with him.

Elias seems to be stuck in that PPG state right now.

Eichel's three seasons before the trade: GP: 166, G: 66, P: 178, P/GP: 1.07

Pettersson's three seasons before the trade: GP: 192: G:81, P: 217, P/GP: 1.13

And Pettersson doesn't have the question mark of risky back surgery.

I don't think Pettersson is stuck in anything, he's slumped since signing a big contract and had some issues with the coach, which isn't uncommon.

[Icon]

Stolarz out 4-6 weeks, knee surgery. Wonder if Treliving goes goalie shopping for Christmas.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I don't think Pettersson is stuck in anything, he's slumped since signing a big contract and had some issues with the coach, which isn't uncommon.

Watch clips of Petterson’s play in the playoffs. Then listen to Tocchet’s recent comments about players on the team not playing with emotion or bringing it every night.

An 11.6 mil blue-skies player who doesn’t bring it when the games get greasy would be an albatross. You might be able to turn him around on a roster filled with veterans who have won the Cup. That’s not the Sabres.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Eichel's three seasons before the trade: GP: 166, G: 66, P: 178, P/GP: 1.07

Pettersson's three seasons before the trade: GP: 192: G:81, P: 217, P/GP: 1.13

And Pettersson doesn't have the question mark of risky back surgery.

I don't think Pettersson is stuck in anything, he's slumped since signing a big contract and had some issues with the coach, which isn't uncommon.

Just maybe teams should do a little more due diligence before hiring coaches.

You bring in guys who don't want to evolve or change and use a blanket system on a team, when they should look at the roster they have and tailor a system and play style to them. I fully understand being good both sides of the puck is important.