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Old 06-23-2017, 03:32 PM   #441
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Lol remember this time last year when BT was having "a little chat" with Kekalainen and Chiarelli
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Thread title change, oh shi-
I saw that too but cannot seem to find a reason why
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Agree. To much worries about trading the pick this year IMO. Seems like the perfect year to just make a trade for the now.

Weaker draft year. Lots of player movement due to expansion. Most of the top end young players are maturing into their primes.

The deal has to make sense but if you can move the 1st for a player in that age 22-25 group that helps you right now you have to look at it.

Make a trade like the Dougie Hamilton trade again 10 time out of 10.
Hamonic will be 27 in August.
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Yeah, I really am not a fan of spending draft picks for harmonic. Even though the Flames are getting to a point where you need to get some solid now players. You can't skip stocking the cupboards. As far as I am concerned. Treliving has spent this and last year's picks wisely with Elliott. Smith. Stone and Lazar. Any more and you're entering Sitter territory of poor asset management. Harmonic is not worth the cost. Plain and simple.
Flames have also picked 3 1st rounders in 2013 (and have since acquired 2 more from the first of that draft)
They picked in the first round once and second round twice in 204
They picked in the 2nd round twice in 2015 and added a 22 year old (at the time) Dman
They picked in the first round and the second round twice in 2016

11 picks in the top 60 in the last 3 drafts and acquiring 2 other former first rounders.

The Flames have stockpiled picks over the past few years and are on the cusp of contention. If they can add a Hamonic now for the 16th pick and a prospect they should do it
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I saw that too but cannot seem to find a reason why
Because they have their sights set on one man.
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Lol remember this time last year when BT was having "a little chat" with Kekalainen and Chiarelli
He's probably suggesting the Islanders ask for 3 firsts.
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GS and Lou Lamoriello having a draft floor chat. Heard the Leafs are making a big push on Hamonic.
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with 2 firsts we'd be in on the Duchene discussions.

I'm more interested in him or Landeskog than I am Harmonic.
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What if the trade happens in these circumstances:
Flames are up at 16, don't have their guy there, trade down into the 20s and add a pick in the 2nd round, then flip that pick in the 20s to Islanders with extras?

Still picking a player in first 2 rounds, albeit much lower, and still giving a first round pick (+ whatever extras, likely a prospect at D)
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Flames have also picked 3 1st rounders in 2013 (and have since acquired 2 more from the first of that draft)
They picked in the first round once and second round twice in 204
They picked in the 2nd round twice in 2015 and added a 22 year old (at the time) Dman
They picked in the first round and the second round twice in 2016

11 picks in the top 60 in the last 3 drafts and acquiring 2 other former first rounders.

The Flames have stockpiled picks over the past few years and are on the cusp of contention. If they can add a Hamonic now for the 16th pick and a prospect they should do it
I honestly have no clue why a lot of folks have this hard on for harmonic, I don't think he's all that great. Especially at the cost of the #16 pick. I sense whipping boy before the all star break.
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Thread title change made me think something was done for Hamonic for a moment.
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I honestly have no clue why a lot of folks have this hard on for harmonic, I don't think he's all that great. Especially at the cost of the #16 pick. I sense whipping boy before the all star break.
Big body, right shot, decent foot speed, great character, even better contract, and the right age group.

Flames would have arguably the best top 4 in the game and an average cap hit of $5.2M locked up for 3 years
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Harmonic's cap hit is $3.85/year for the next three years. I think that's what makes him attractive.
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his cap hit is $3,857,143

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Big body, right shot, decent foot speed, great character, even better contract, and the right age group.

Flames would have arguably the best top 4 in the game and an average cap hit of $5.2M locked up for 3 years
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Thread title revert makes me sad.
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his cap hit is $3,857,143
I am sure he meant the overall avg for the top 4 D.
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his cap hit is $3,857,143
I averaged Gio, Dougie, Brodie, and Hamonic's cap hits
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There is no 'R' in his name. It's Hamonic, not Harmonic
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There is no 'R' in his name. It's Hamonic, not Harmonic
It's flipping auto correct. So sue me.
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with 2 firsts we'd be in on the Duchene discussions.

I'm more interested in him or Landeskog than I am Harmonic.
Much, much bigger need for dmen than forwards. We're pretty stacked at forward and have huge holes right now on the defense
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