[Trade] Flames trade Baertschi to VAN for a 2015 2nd round pick (Baertschi requested trade)

[GioforPM]

The Burke quote was pretty blunt, but all Sven had to do was improve the stuff he talked about. Instead he didn't. And he did complain about being at the development camp.

I'm pretty sure you can find on the record comments from other gms about other players equally as blunt.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

You can draw what you want, especially now, but few management personnel have embarrassed their players like Burke did to Baertschi last winter...

Oh, please...

Originally Posted by Brian Burke

"All I’ve seen so far is flashes of brilliance. Flashes of brilliance are fine if you’re working in the university, but they’re not much good to people in an NHL building.

"There are three zones in the ice surfaces in this league. I don’t see that he’s learned to play and compete in two of them. He’s got to learn there’s a clock in this league and there’s so many minutes in the game and that you’ve got to compete through all of it. I see this is a guy who’s focusing on one area [scoring] and even then, sporadically. So I don’t know what we have.

"I’m not ready to quit on a young kid. I’m not ready to throw him under the bus here today and rip him, but I think you can tell from my comments that I see big holes and I see a lack of commitment that’s not going to get him anywhere in my books."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle14610874/

Yeah, I don't know how Baertschi could ever live this down, or bear to show his face.

I see MUCH harsher criticism than this on virtually every article that I send away fro peer review. This looks remarkably analogous to reviews that I write for graduate applications and theses.

[Righteous1]

svensational no moreeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Squirt

Good trade, I like it.

Don't know why people are freaking over the fact we traded him to the Canucks.

..its the Canucks.

Because apparently trading an underwhelming prospect to a rival now magically makes him a top 6 player who will come back to haunt us one day.

[PugnaciousIntern]

I am relieved. Not all 1st round picks are the same, and not all player - coach relationships are the same. If it's a question between Hartley and Sven, that's an easy choice. This situation wasn't headed anywhere productive, at least not in Cgy, so BT sold as high as he could. Which, in a deep draft, isn't too shabby. Yes, if he was a fresh first rounder, I would hate this deal. But he's not, and it isn't just a matter of waiting for his hockey game to develop - there were other issues. Some here are worried that Sven will make us pay... I'm of the belief that in 5 years, we will look at this deal as very reasonable.

[dammage79]

Meh, we don't see the Canucks until next season. A little context for the whole trade to a Rival thing.

[killer_carlson]

Would you have traded Sven for Petry?

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Not even close to the same

Which do you feel was worse the short jokes, or saying Sven's game had holes that needed to be filled?

[Vinny01]

Hearing he would not re-sign and demanded a trade my guess is they got their best offer. Too bad it was the Canucks and only a 2nd

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well now he's not a prospect I feel I can call it the way I saw it...

Erick Estrada: A master of self congratulation who never misses an opportunity.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

In my time of following the Flames we've never had 4 picks in the first two rounds I don't think. Especially not in a deep draft. This will afford Treliving some excellent flexibility as 2nd rounders in deep drafts can end up working out great and now we have extra rolls of the dice.

Don't remember our third 2nd rounder going for Elomo?

[Wood]

With Sven demanding a trade, and saying he wouldnt re-sign here that changes a lot. He felt entitled even though he never earned it

He's not a good fit for the Calgary Flames

He could have worked hard and earned a spot like Jooris and the rest of the players earning call ups, but I guess the attitude problems are a real problem with him

Too bad, he was really talented in junior. His downfall has only been his own fault, the Flames have offered up a lot of opportunities for him and others the last couple seasons

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Would you have traded Sven for Petry?

Heck no.

2nd in '15 > Petry.

No more Oiler stink.

[CliffFletcher]

Selling high. I doubt the guy is still playing in North American in three years.

[polak]

Still wish it wasn't to the Canucks but Baertschi can GTFO

[robaur]

The Canucks are going to coddle and baby Sven Baertschi like the Flames should have done. Different people respond to different treatment. You have to nurture some and be tough on others.

Canucks are going to throw a bunch of ice time at Baertschi and let him figure it out in the NHL and they're going to reap the rewards.

The Flames should have kept him up in the NHL and struggled through his growth with him. That was the only way this was going to work.

Canucks GM Jim Benning already telling the media that he expects Baertschi to play in their Top 6.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by mhsyyc

I think Sven's got to look in the mirror. He was a first round pick and now he's been traded for a second rounder. What's next for him? Will he pick himself up and compete or will he pack it in and be traded for a bag of pucks and a fifth rounder?

Or he could happily go home.

I think the time frame and considerations for foreign nationals could be a bit different.

Sven could be thinking that he needs to make the NHL by a certain age, and if not, he'll go home to Switzerland and play locally. He'll enjoy his job and enjoy his environment. Nothing wrong with that.

Unlike a previous prospect, at least the kid was honest in his conversations with management.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Oh, please...



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle14610874/

Yeah, I don't know hoe Baertschi could bear to show his face.

I see MUCH harsher criticism than this on virtually every article that I send away fro peer review. This looks remarkably analogous to reviews that I write for graduate applications and theses.

I don't really want to get into this again, since it doesn't matter anymore, but can you show me other examples where management has ripped into their own prospect that badly?

[Flames89]

Fine with the trade. BUT WHY TO VANCOUVER?!
It is far too tempting for maliciously malevolent hockey gods.

[BurningSteel]

I hope he doesnt become Ribero 2.0