2025 World Series - Toronto Blue Jays vs Los Angeles Dodgers

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by mile

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I blame the monster known as Gamblor for this kind of bull####.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by mile

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That makes no sense. The Jays are not behind, the game is tied. To get doubled off is so rare you cant play for it. And if it happens so what the game is still tied.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

That makes no sense. The Jays are not behind, the game is tied. To get doubled off is so rare you cant play for it. And if it happens so what the game is still tied.

Varsho I also up who hasn’t hit an opposite field hit since 2020

You aren’t getting doubled up on a line drive to the 1B or 2B

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

That makes no sense. The Jays are not behind, the game is tied. To get doubled off is so rare you cant play for it. And if it happens so what the game is still tied.

Definitely felt like an extremely conservative reaction (overreaction?) to what happened in game 6.

I believe that there was a hot shot hit by Gimenez in the 8th that would have doubled off Clement at second if he hadn’t been close to the bag which may have influenced the call but we weren’t able to score him that inning any way.

[BigThief]

Was a beautiful run, a fantastic world series, an entire country unabashedly got behind the team; more jays paraphernalia than Halloween costume downtown Friday. We can break down every single play, every single decision as you drive yourself mad but it was a fun ride.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by united

Their name is the TORONTO Blue Jays. Not the Canada Blue Jays. Like the TORONTO Maple Leafs and their fans have done for 20 years, they thought they were the centre of the universe and blew it. Thank you, LA Dodgers. In esteem with the 2006 Hurricanes, 2011 Bruins, and 2023/2024 Panthers. Nobody wants to associate with the 2019 Warriors.

Haven’t seen Sportsnet this dejected and salty since the last Oilers loss. Game’s over, be a pro.

The Panthers lost in 2023. You want to thank them in 2024 and 2025. You also have to add in esteem with the 1994 Rangers and 1982/1983 Islanders.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

By sliding home, you’ll have less momentum going to home plate but by sliding properly can ensure that you hit the very edge of the plate rather than running and trying to land exactly on the edge of the plate.

If they could drag a foot across home plate while running at full speed, it would likely be the best way to do it but guys do have a tendency to miss part of (if not the entirety of) the plate when they run.

It’s slightly different from running to first because you have a raised target at first base and not at home.

Force outs at home are kind of rare. And remember it’s hard to keep your front toes on the ground when sliding, it’s not a bag.

I think the same logic of running through the plate would apply at home as it would at first. And certainly a head first slide going to be much quicker than throwing your feet out.

[flamingred89]

I somehow feel worse this morning than I did last night. Absolutely gutted. Everything that could've gone against them did. The Dodgers in no way deserved to win.

Thanks everyone for a heck of a season. It was great to see this thread jam packed with so many Jays fans. Bandwagon or not. The future is bright for this team and hopefully we'll have a few more runs just like this one.

Sorry Jeff Hoffman. I didn't mean to rag on you so much. But would it kill you to keep the ball in the ballpark?

[Scroopy Noopers]

“How can you not be romantic about baseball”

That’s how. Right there. Fuuuuccckkkk

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Force outs at home are kind of rare. And remember it’s hard to keep your front toes on the ground when sliding, it’s not a bag.

I think the same logic of running through the plate would apply at home as it would at first. And certainly a head first slide going to be much quicker than throwing your feet out.

Running to first isn’t quite comparable to running home.

1) Players are aware that home plate is a slipping risk when wearing cleats. They tend to avoid the heart of the plate when running home at full speed for that reason. I wonder if it is somewhat of a reflex to slide home in close situations.
2) The raised bag at first provides an easier target to hit the very edge.
3) They run to first at full speed much more often than they do home so they are better judges of where they need to land at first than they are at home.

As I mentioned previously, I think a full run would have been the faster way to get home as he wouldn’t have lost momentum by sliding. At the same time, I can understand why he slid.

[The Big Chill]

Ok, can confirm it hurts just as much this morning

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

I somehow feel worse this morning than I did last night. Absolutely gutted. Everything that could've gone against them did. The Dodgers in no way deserved to win.

Thanks everyone for a heck of a season. It was great to see this thread jam packed with so many Jays fans. Bandwagon or not. The future is bright for this team and hopefully we'll have a few more runs just like this one.

Sorry Jeff Hoffman. I didn't mean to rag on you so much. But would it kill you to keep the ball in the ballpark?

It felt like the Dodgers hung on by the skin of their teeth. This could have been over in 5.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Losing this game ####ing sucks. There is no way around it. As impossible as it seems, the memories of losing the game will eventually fade away and what will last are all of the memories that we had on the way getting here.

Just like the Flames did in 2003-04, we will remember this team as it was - a fantastic group of guys who came together and did amazing things and made an entire generation of new fans for the team.

It was a hell of a ride.

Well said. Still, the memories of losing game 7 do not fade away. We all know "it was in" for the 2004 SCF! Heck, listening to all the post game shows for the Blue Jays, there were plenty of fans comparing this WS game 7 loss to the 1985 semi-final loss to the Kansas City Royals. The Blue Jays blew a 3-1 series lead and lost games 6 and 7 at home, just like this year.

[Senator Clay Davis]

ESPN has the headline as "Dodgers steal Game 7 late" and that is the most appropriate way to describe it. Outside Yamamoto, the Dodgers overall played as poorly in the whole series as any champ I can remember, but the Jays just couldn't find the knockout blow to kill them. Cliche as it is to say, the Dodgers showed that "championship mettle" to just stick around, grind out tough situations and get the clutch plays (and good fortune) the Jays just couldn't.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Running to first isn’t quite comparable to running home.

1) Players are aware that home plate is a slipping risk when wearing cleats. They tend to avoid the heart of the plate when running home at full speed for that reason. I wonder if it is somewhat of a reflex to slide home in close situations.
2) The raised bag at first provides an easier target to hit the very edge.
3) They run to first at full speed much more often than they do home so they are better judges of where they need to land at first than they are at home.

As I mentioned previously, I think a full run would have been the faster way to get home as he wouldn’t have lost momentum by sliding. At the same time, I can understand why he slid.

Again, feet first slide at home is difficult to hit the edge of the plate. And head first going to be faster than throwing your weight back and feet out, always.

Anyway kind of an over analysis. Just ironic that you bring a guy solely for that situation and he doesn’t deliver.
Roberts brings in a defensive replacement mid inning (extremely rare) and he proceeds to save the game.

[ben voyonsdonc]

What sucks is that IKF isn’t even a speedy guy. He’s like 47th percentile in sprint speed.

In hindsight, not having a baserunning specialist like Clase on the roster when you have Springer, Bo, and Kirk all being limited due to injury or just general slowness was probably a bit of a miss.

Straw is a good baserunner but he’s really used for his glove first rather than for baserunning so you can’t quite deploy him the same way you could with Clase.

[bluejays]

I'm not hurting IKF in this case. Things happen so fast that it truly wasn't a bad play. Everyone is now thinking of the outcome and what they could've done to avoid it but it's mostly hindsight. It was a play they normally do that way anyway. The slide was fine vs standing up.


Anyway, this morning it feels so sombre. I was in the heart of the city watching the game and after the game was over everyone was just quietly walking home with their heads down. I've never seen that many people collectively so quiet (almost like the business day rat race we see daily, but slower paced). This morning it sucks to realize we were so close to getting it but it didn't happen.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I'm not hurting IKF in this case. Things happen so fast that it truly wasn't a bad play. Everyone is now thinking of the outcome and what they could've done to avoid it but it's mostly hindsight. It was a play they normally do that way anyway. The slide was fine vs standing up.

100%. We are talking about the thinnest of margins in terms of difference. It wasn’t on IKF (which is hard for me to say because I’m notoriously not a fan of IKF) on this one. He did what I think the majority of players would have done as a reflex.

The whole last few innings combined with the end of game 6 were just a confluence of a lot of stuff not working out.

Being two outs away from the win is just heartbreaking and I understand the impulse to scrutinize every thing that went into us not being able to bring it home.

I hope the team can eventually channel this pain into rage that will motivate them next season. Two outs away.

[TKB]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Varsho I also up who hasn’t hit an opposite field hit since 2020

You aren’t getting doubled up on a line drive to the 1B or 2B

This, 100 percent. Zero chance he would get doubled at third base. Black hole Varsho struggles to hit the ball yet alone hit opposite field. Also how the #### can not one guy hit a fly ball with so many guys on third throughout the game and 0-1 out…..

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Schneider not walking Ohtani in the 7th of game 3 is the one that bothers me the most. You do that there is no 18 inning game and they win in 5.

Likely but we can’t know for sure.

This loss is devastating.