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Old 11-02-2025, 01:33 AM   #4361
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lol such a Jays / Oilers fan playoff comment
No #### dude. What did you expect to find in this thread?
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:35 AM   #4362
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Man.

Gutting doesn’t even come close to describing how painful that was. The Jays were the better team for the vast majority of the series. They should have won. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a crazier seven game series in my life. Just sucks.
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:37 AM   #4363
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Gah I just saw a wide shot of the bases loaded situation.
Why didn't IKF have a bigger lead????
He literally cost us the World Series with that. Like actually. Any ****ing normal lead off the bag and it would have been over by a foot or more. And the extra kick in the nuts was the Jays removing one of their best hitters ina close game for the privilege of that absurd blunder.
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:38 AM   #4364
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When you add up all the chances from games 3, 6, and 7 the Jays had like 20+ chances to win the World Series and not one broke their way

its unreal when you think about it
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:38 AM   #4365
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Kirk should’ve almost bunt there.

He had been hit on the wrist the last at bat and hand yesterday. He had two bloops tonight and didn’t seem to have much power, but I think yesterdays injury was affecting him and probably so was tonight. Hoping for another bloop because not sure he had the power for a sac fly.

They pitched around Barger totally to get to him. Bunt Kirk and get Barger to second, no way they’d risk a throw to second and have Vlad have a chance to race home.

Take the chance with guys on 2nd and 3rd with two outs with……..Varsho. I know I know but the Kirk double play seemed way too imminent (and tack on the hand injuries) . And Dalton was due. Sure let’s say that.
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:40 AM   #4366
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Schneider not walking Ohtani in the 7th of game 3 is the one that bothers me the most. You do that there is no 18 inning game and they win in 5.
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:43 AM   #4367
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So many little things adding up.

A healthy Bo we likely have one additional run and no IKF coming in.

So many things. It’s just unbelievable. I don’t think I’ll ever see the Jays make another WS and have a shot like that ever again.

They were so much better than the Dodgers.

I’m in shock.
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:46 AM   #4368
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To sum the world series up, and what makes it all the more heartbreaking is that the Dodgers are a half billion dollar team, like an almost fabricated dream team by a kid on Xbox.

They were supposed to destroy a team like the Jays, but they ended up being human and struggling against the Jays best attributes as a team.....Then the Jays beat themselves in the world series with iffy decisions, costly mistakes and simply not cashing in on way too many opportunities to put LA away. Simply gutting.

A world series situation that came out of nowhere and may be decades before we find ourselves in again
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:47 AM   #4369
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Schneider not walking Ohtani in the 7th of game 3 is the one that bothers me the most. You do that there is no 18 inning game and they win in 5.
I still contend in the 4th too of that game he should’ve been walked.
Even with a runner on ahead of him.
He’d already hit a HR.

Instead they pitch to him and he doubled in a run that AB. But didn’t get in himself as the Jays shut down the next guys behind him. So that’s two runs the Dodgers would’ve had to have gotten another way in that game.

That was a mismanaged game like Seattle game 5 was.
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:48 AM   #4370
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So many little things adding up.

A healthy Bo we likely have one additional run and no IKF coming in.

So many things. It’s just unbelievable. I don’t think I’ll ever see the Jays make another WS and have a shot like that ever again.

They were so much better than the Dodgers.

I’m in shock.
I know it seems like we'll never see them go that far again, but it's different now. They've made the post season 4 of 6 seasons now and most of this team is coming back. Plus they made a ton of money from this run and they were already spending to keep the team with one of the highest payrolls.

Something seemed to click with this organization this year. Don't be surprised if they have a few runs in them during the Vladdy era.
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:57 AM   #4371
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Bassitt with his worst game of the playoffs. Hoffman with his worst game of the playoffs. Kirk couldn’t come thru. Varsho a black hole for 7 games with multiple chances to end the series. Yamamoto light out. Pages with a series winning catch. Rojas with one of the most clutch home runs in World Series history.

It literally took every damn thing you could imagine going wrong. Took half a dozen miracles for the dodgers to win and every single one of them came true.
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Bassitt with his worst game of the playoffs. Hoffman with his worst game of the playoffs. Kirk couldn’t come thru. Varsho a black hole for 7 games with multiple chances to end the series. Yamamoto light out. Pages with a series winning catch. Rojas with one of the most clutch home runs in World Series history.

It literally took every damn thing you could imagine going wrong. Took half a dozen miracles for the dodgers to win and every single one of them came true.
Dodgers were the true team of desrinty. Seems like no matter what the Jays did, the Dodgers had the answer pre-ordained
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Old 11-02-2025, 01:29 AM   #4373
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Wow that hurts. Feels like 2004 all over again. I’m a bigger Flames fan but this is more heartbreaking with the blown lead and the losing by inches happening in game 7.

The Jays biggest questions marks at the start of the season were clutch hitting and the bullpen so I guess it was appropriate to lose from a lack of clutch hitting and the closer blowing a lead in the 9th.
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I don't know. The disappointing part for me was all the things that this team did so well, they did do again except with risp. They needed one hit multiple times and would have won this. They left 14 on base tonight. 14!
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Old 11-02-2025, 02:05 AM   #4376
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So many different moments you can fixate on that just did not go the Jays way. It’s truly remarkable. As a fan I think the best way to process it is that for whatever reason it just was not meant to be, you will drive yourself crazy analyzing the 6-7 different situations that led the Jays to losing that game. When we look back at 04 we think of one sequence of events that was very unlucky, the last two games has had so many what if’s it’s hard to keep track of them all. I was kid in 04 and I think I replayed the “it was in” moment so many times during the months following with many tears. I will be taking a lesson from the Flames loss and will try to not overanalyze all the mistakes/decisions the Jays made in the last two. It is what it is at this point, sports is a cruel enjoyment and is never fair.

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This team was so good at manufacturing runs all season but couldn’t do it when it mattered most. I’ve been on the bandwagon all season if not for years. And this was the most likeable Jays team in years. But they f’d that up. The Dodgers didn’t do anything special to win it. The Jays lost it.
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Another positive for me right now, as a guy who did not think Vlad had it in him to get to the level we saw this post season, I am happy to say I couldn't have been more wrong. Offense, defense, base running, all on point.

Hopefully he can be at that level more consistently going forward. If so, I don't think this team will be a one season wonder.
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Old 11-02-2025, 04:08 AM   #4379
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For the "this was their one shot and they won't be back in the WS for decades" crowd, I have a question: if the Jays had won this game, would you be saying the same thing?


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Yeah but then you have to time your step on the plate just perfectly too and as close to the edge as possible, which the runner has less control considering how fast your legs are moving and trying to adjust your stride.

With a slide you are making sure your foot is hitting the edge of the plate at the earliest possible moment.
If sliding gets you to the base the fastest, why does no one ever slide into first base?
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Old 11-02-2025, 06:44 AM   #4380
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For the "this was their one shot and they won't be back in the WS for decades" crowd, I have a question: if the Jays had won this game, would you be saying the same thing?




If sliding gets you to the base the fastest, why does no one ever slide into first base?
By sliding home, you’ll have less momentum going to home plate but by sliding properly can ensure that you hit the very edge of the plate rather than running and trying to land exactly on the edge of the plate.

If they could drag a foot across home plate while running at full speed, it would likely be the best way to do it but guys do have a tendency to miss part of (if not the entirety of) the plate when they run.

It’s slightly different from running to first because you have a raised target at first base and not at home.

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